• SONAR
  • Off kilter display: NVIDIA GEforce210, Win7, LG flatscreen. Need to nudge to the right (p.2)
2015/03/22 13:52:21
Beepster
Wookiee
It sounds more like a monitor problem than a card problem, I run 210's in both my studio PC's and I have not seen such a problem on all of the different monitors I have gone through.




It likely is but all I need to do is nudge the display output into the correct spot and unfortunately there are no onboard controls in the monitor options. This is kind of a workaround I guess. I hope it works.
2015/03/22 14:10:18
Chappel
You won't have the same kinds of controls on it because it is designed more like a TV and than it is a monitor. You might have luck tweaking either the Aspect Ratio or the Zoom setting. In case you no longer have it, below is a link to the manual for the LG 20LS7D.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s...2020LS7D%20TV.pdf?dl=0
2015/03/22 14:23:22
Chappel
Beepster
I've got the disk but I'm sure it's on Gigabyte's website (and there is probably an updated version as well). The problem is when I built the system I was trying to avoid overloading it with unnecessary crap (for example I made the foolish mistake of installing the ASUS utility which is of no use to me and refuses to be removed so now it basically acts as "annoyanceware" every time I boot the system)...




Regarding the ASUS utility, which I agree is both useless and annoying, I suggest using Revo Uninstaller. I have been using the free version for years and swear by it. You should also be able to change its startup status in Windows using MSConfig.
2015/03/22 14:23:51
sharke
I've generally always accessed gfx card options by right clicking on the desktop. 
2015/03/22 14:36:22
Beepster
I've been using CCleaner for years and it has always served me well but for some reason the ASUS Utility is resitant to it. I'll check out the REVO uninstaller because I have heard it mentioned and praised for quite a while. Anyway I guess this was a good excuse for me to update my graphics driver. There was an driver update in 2014 for the card and I've still been working on the driver I snagged when I built the system which seems to have been released in 2011 (and there was another driver update in 2013 so I'm two versions behind... at least).
 
@sharke... yeah, the manual for the card is saying that's how to get at it (it says I should be seeing an NVIDIA entry in my desktop Right Click menu) but it ain't there. Maybe something went funky when I installed the drivers. Gonna see what happens with this new setup.
 
BTW... that EasyBoost thing I mentioned earlier was NOT the display utility. It was some kind of BIOS control/enhancement thing which I do NOT want. I had created a restore point (as I always do when installing new stuff) and reverted back after I realized what it was. Installing the new drivers now to see what that shakes loose.
 
Thanks for the continued support here guys. Hopefully it'll work out.
 
BRB
2015/03/22 14:40:48
Beepster
Oh and in regards to the ASUS utility I disabled it in startup immediately after I had installed it. So what it does now is throw a popup saying it didn't start properly. I just have to close it and everything is fine. I just hate looking at that stupid thing every time I boot up. It reminds me of how stupid I used to be (and perhaps still am). lulz
 
2015/03/22 14:45:33
Chappel
Beepster
Oh and in regards to the ASUS utility I disabled it in startup immediately after I had installed it. So what it does now is throw a popup saying it didn't start properly. I just have to close it and everything is fine. I just hate looking at that stupid thing every time I boot up. It reminds me of how stupid I used to be (and perhaps still am). lulz



Then the Revo Uninstaller should do the trick. That's what I used to get rid of the ASUS utility. Revo gets right into the Windows registry for a full uninstall.
 
As far as right-clicking on the screen to access video card options, that's where the NVIDIA Control Panel should be. Hopefully the driver update will install that for you. It's pretty handy.
2015/03/22 14:59:26
Splat
Beepster
 
I've got the disk but I'm sure it's on Gigabyte's website (and there is probably an updated version as well). The problem is when I built the system I was trying to avoid overloading it with unnecessary crap (for example I made the foolish mistake of installing the ASUS utility which is of no use to me and refuses to be removed so now it basically acts as "annoyanceware" every time I boot the system).

 
These are the latest drivers I think (Feb 2015):
 
http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/82467
2015/03/22 15:27:13
Beepster
Welp... installing the new drivers has indeed given me access to the NVIDIA controls and I have indeed been able to nudge the screen around and do all sorts of other wackiness...
 
BUT
 
I cannot seem to get the resolution just right. The image is centered now and everything looks great... but the edges on the left/right are ever so slightly cut off. This would not bother me so much if it weren't for the fact when opening Sonar, for example, in the control bar the CB module nav buttons are almost completely cut off (amongst other things). That is just an idea of how little, but too much, is being cut off. Every other combination of settings stretches things, makes things WAY too huge, brings back the black bars, etc, etc...
 
There is a custom adjust setting in the NVIDIA options that allows me to "fine tune" such things (which pops up a massive warning about equipment damage and liability and yadda yadda that I do not understand) and the LG manual says to set things to 1366x768 which I tried. When I do set it to that things go sightly off kilter and slightly stretchy in the wrong directions. Ugh.
 
I guess MAYBE if I screw with those settings enough I might get things looking normal but that warning was really quite alarming. Not sure if it will even work and I'm getting cranky at this.
 
Darn you XLN and your slightly too large AD2 GUI. I was perfectly content bumbling about with my vertical black bars. 
lol
 
Anyway... lots of progress based on all of your help, at least in regards to getting my graphics card sorted out. I think this "monitor" is just kind of screwy. Maybe an HDMI cable needs to be purchased or something (whcih I ain't doing any time soon).
 
For now I have three options I guess...
 
1) Go back to vertical bars and being annoyed by AD2 and the reminder of my own incompetence
 
2) Somehow see if I can live with the edges of everything else being slightly cut off
 
3) Deal with the stress of throwing caution to the wind, ignoring that weird ass warning and fine tune the settings until I get something useable... which may not even be possible anyway.
 
Oof.
2015/03/22 15:29:35
Beepster
And to paraphrase Dante (from Clerks)... "I wasn't even supposed be screwing with graphics issues today".
 
Edit: After a touch of fiddling with the screen position (not the scary ultra custom stuff) I have settled on option 3. I can get it so that, even though a half dozen or so pixels are cut off I can still get at everything in Sonar. I may have to set my Task Bar to autohide at the bottom of the screen though so it doesn't pop up when I'm perusing Control Bar modules.
 
What IS quite nice about this all is... many more track strips in the console. It'll probably make Track View stuff less cramped and annoying too.
 
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