vintagevibe

John
I understand the notion of being locked in as you put it. It is something to consider. However I reject that notion. You are not locked in to anything.
  

You are locked in to not being able to take your processing to another DAW.

Not if you only use the ProChannel to host VST's in FX Chains. You don't have to use the PC modules. Personally, even if I'm only using 3rd part VST's, I prefer to insert them in the ProChannel. It's just easier to see the whole effects chain at a glance, especially if there's lots of effects. The FX Bins get way too fiddly once you're using more than 3 effects. Sometimes I'll have 7 or 8 VST's in series in the PC FX Chains. I might even split them across 2 separate FX Chains so that I can see them all without scrolling. If you do a lot of experimentation (rearranging effects etc) it's so much easier like this, and a complete PITA in the FX Bins. 

Are you using a zoom factor on your Windows?

A bit OT because I'm on X3 but I was recently wondering if removing them completely was possible too.

Sometimes I'll open a project that didn't have any PC's used at all then when I open the project later several PC's will be enabled, sometimes the white eq line on the graph indicating the eq is enabled too.

It doesn't always happen every time either & not on every project.
I'd sure like to know why this happens. It bothers me when I see them enabled at random when they were never touched. If anyone knows please let me know.

John
 
Yes, I am locked in. I choose to be locked in and I couldn't be happier.  

Either way, thank you for input.
I got the answers I hoped for, you can pretty much work in SProf/Splat and PC will not be in your way.

FastBikerBoy
 
Strange. Both the top and bottom screenshot look more like a redraw bug to me. They both appear to be drawn on top of other elements which doesn't seem right.
 
I certainly don't see that here but I am using Platinum. It'd be helpful to hear from other artist users to see if they get the same thing.

Seems so to me too - some code that is unique for Artist, not having PC stuff, only Sonitus.
The whole module for plot collapses - but this button hangs in there.
 
I did a CWBRN in january, and it should be obvious for devs once getting to it.
They moved status one step on CWBRN.
 
Odd that nobody reported for now 18 months when X3 arrived.

I think thinking about the notion of being locked in is probably more of a workflow killer than the reality for most. It is fairly easy to work with Sonar and never touch PC.  Before I got used to PC I ignored and used fx bins as usual. I think of having PC and not using it as being more along the lines of having an extra feature that is not used than something i am stuck with. When i look through the endless menus on products like Word or Photoshop I see lots of things I will never use. I find beginning photoshop students are sometimes overwhelmed by this until they realize they can ignore most of the features.  

I don't really mind it much, it's just something to ignore. In this age of customization it seems odd I can't simply disable it.

I'll look into the hide modules thing though, thanks to whoever suggested that.

Sanderxpander
I don't really mind it much, it's just something to ignore. In this age of customization it seems odd I can't simply disable it.

That will never happen. There are PC modules to sell and third party vendors Cakewalk will want to encourage..

lfm 
Odd that nobody reported for now 18 months when X3 arrived.

 
Reported to CW in Dec 2013:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/EQ-toggle-button-wouldnt-disappear-from-Console-View-CWBRN21976-confirmed-by-CW-m2966760.aspx
 

icontakt

lfm 
Odd that nobody reported for now 18 months when X3 arrived.

 
Reported to CW in Dec 2013:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/EQ-toggle-button-wouldnt-disappear-from-Console-View-CWBRN21976-confirmed-by-CW-m2966760.aspx
 

You scare me quite a bit here - why did they not attend to this earlier - it's almost 10,000 reports ago.
Thanks for input - so I get more realistic about speed of fixes, was a bit upset over not fixed in three weeks.
 
It's there in Inspector too.