• SONAR
  • Track clips "Busy" message on clips won't go away - reappears whatever you do?
2015/03/16 10:54:10
lfm
It's also in this two year old thread.
http://forum.cakewalk.com...-go-away-m2831601.aspx
 
I tried clearing picture cache, then it rebuilds on start and no busy message.
Closing project and opening again - then it's back.
 
You can follow instruction and select all - and do recomputer pictures - then it's fixed for that session it seems.
But next time you open project it's back again.
 
Any solution, workaround for this?
 
Reported among bugs, or?
Seems like a real old one, if not fixed.
Thanks.
 
EDIT: Went through all old Cakewalk folders on different drives, removed the picture cache everywhere.
Started and loaded projects - picture cache on the expected folder tree is created.
But closing and loading project - and busy is back.
 
As it seems to me this is happening:
a) project loads and clips shown - and text "busy" is thrown out everywhere.
b) when all is loaded - project still show "busy".
c) is there is a missing picture file, this is rebuilt - and in this case the text in clip is refreshed without "busy".
 
So is maybe a refresh of clip texts just missing on all clips, removing "busy" - if there already is a picture file that can be used.
when a picture is rebuilt - this replacement of clip text is refreshed as a final operation.
 
 
2015/03/17 14:13:26
lfm
... more observations if I may bump it...
Probably have something to do with "Cakewalk Projects" folder on both C and D drive.
Starting up one project I got picture files on C-drive, after clearing out Picture cache.
Then when rebuilding I got picture files on D-drive where my default project folder is.
So Picture Cache for same files on two places.
 
Not the full story, since some project also recide in full on D-drive - but related somehow.
Is Sonar always looking in C-drive when loading project?
 
Also got some "Cakewalk Projects older" and "Cakewalk Projects newer" on D-drive, but these remain empty for loaded sample projects.
2015/03/17 14:25:02
scook
SONAR only uses one picture cache, the one specified in Preferences > File > Audio Data.
Is the D: drive a separate physical driver?
Is the D: drive an internal or external drive?
Where is the "Global Audio Folder" in Preferences > File > Audio Data pointing?
How large is the picture cache?
How large is the project in time/tracks?
2015/03/17 14:38:26
brundlefly
Maybe exacerbated by switching between different versions of SONAR referencing two different picture cache paths in Preferences > Audio Data...?
 
 
2015/03/17 14:44:24
scook
Yeah, I did not think about multiple versions with different preferences.
2015/03/17 15:09:17
lfm
Thanks guys.
 
Tried different things:
use save as copy and checked all copy audio and stuff - this with C-drive and D-drive as picture cache and project path.
 
This with both C and D as target drive.
Project was originally made on a 32-bit Sonar Studio 4 - really small one with an embryo theme.
And thought for sure this Save Copy As would do the trick.
 
But no - if starting with the assigned picture cache where empty from Wov files - it builds and no Busy in clips.
But closing project and open again - it's back.
 
I don't know, but naming of picture files changed after I made new names of everything - project name is in there somewhere with some hyphens.
 
But still - if not finding old files, it build new ones, so?
 
I will try further with a completely new SA2015 project, really weird.
And if continues - I have a basic project to attach to CWBRN-report.
It should just take one audio file.
 
But still - found that Save Copy As - really good feature.
2015/03/17 15:21:40
THambrecht
A "very" low audio-latency results in a slower building of picture data - or prevents even the drawing.
 
We have great projects (50 GB Audio), because we restore old tapes and vinyl. We have no problems when we set driver mode to WDM and a greater latency.
PicCacheMB is set to 2000.
 
2015/03/17 15:29:34
lfm
THambrecht
A "very" low audio-latency results in a slower building of picture data - or prevents even the drawing.
 
We have great projects (50 GB Audio), because we restore old tapes and vinyl. We have no problems when we set driver mode to WDM and a greater latency.
PicCacheMB is set to 2000.
 


Thanks - but the pictures are shown alright - I even think it's the correct picture drawn.
So it's drawing stuff for waveforms - but the busy-ticket is on every clip either way.
 
Is your example from the actuall recording and simulataneous drawing, maybe?
2015/03/17 15:34:27
scook
Are all projects working this way or just one project?
2015/03/17 15:53:22
brundlefly
lfm
And thought for sure this Save Copy As would do the trick.
 
But no - if starting with the assigned picture cache where empty from Wov files - it builds and no Busy in clips.
But closing project and open again - it's back.



After Save Copy As and closing the original project, are you making sure you open the copy? Save As will update your recent files list so the new project is referenced, but with Save Copy As, you'll need to deliberately navigate to the new project file.
 
The original will still be broken in either case, and whatever the cause because it's going to still be referencing the old picture files. Maybe SONAR has trouble reading some old pic files. I think I had some old projects that did that until I resaved them with new pictures.
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