Ok, I solved the mystery of the Out1 LED on the front of the FF400: There is a setting in Sonar that sends some kind of MIDI data on stop.  Once I unchecked that, no more mystery data on the FF400 output.  
 
I can't find the setting referred to earlier WRT allowing arm changes during playback.  Where exactly is that located??  I hunted all over, is that maybe a checkbox added post Sonar 5 ??
 
Also, it occurred to me the hang problem just might be a runtime library compatibility issue.  XP SP3 has runtime library files dated 2008 that might be causing Sonar 5 grief (which uses 2005 RTL's IIRC).   
 
Sonic

Guys, when I get lock-ups it's almost always as a result of stopping the transport.  I ran a utility that provides a snapshot of the system info but it's a bit over my head, any of you computer experts maybe glean anything from this:....???
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Hang report for C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR 5 Producer Edition\SONARPDR.EXE
Generated by using WhatIsHang.exe on 4/6/2018 7:33:18 PM
 
Remarks:
* This program hangs because it waits on another system object. The type of the system object is Event and its handle is 0xd94
* A reference to a remote network file was found in the call stack. If this network file cannot be accessed, it might cause the hang problem. The filename is \\?\1394#a35&2#411908221350a00#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\hdspfireu

Strings found in the stack:
.?AUITopologyManager@@
name "tom4FX"
filename "TO05_04_DS_FH_R_"
velocityknee H 101
cycle S NOT
14.2.0.228
__unaligned
\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR 5 Producer Edition;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS\system;C:\WINDOWS;.;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WI
C:\PROGRA~1\DIRECT~1
D$ SVW‹ñ‹L$(PQ‹Î‰t$è¾yÛÿF3ÿP‰|$$ÿÄ3è
C:\Program File
`:6vg:6v
__GLOBAL_HEAP_SELECTED
ienc2hfdùY½¸Å
.?AUIAudEffectsBin@@
alternate
velvol
}
pad {
name "tom5FX"
filename "TO03_05_DS_FH_R_"
velocit
CAudParamCollection
prcp.nls
big5.nls
PSVhV#û
\\?\1394#a35&2#411908221350a00#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\hdspfireu
ud.drv
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Key[0,24\ï¸
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\??\C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR 5 P
Vol = 0.0
;C:\WINDOWS\syst

Modules found in the stack:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\MFC71U.DLL , Microsoft Corporation , Microsoft® Visual Studio .NET, MFCDLL Shared Library - Retail Version
C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR 5 Producer Edition\CJ609Lib.dll , CodeJock.com URL: http://www.codejock.com , CJLibrary MFC Extension Library, CJLibrary MFC Component Library
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\X86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.5512_x-ww_35d4ce83\COMCTL32.dll , Microsoft Corporation , Microsoft® Windows® Operating System, User Experience Controls Library
C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVCR71.dll , Microsoft Corporation , Microsoft® Visual Studio .NET, Microsoft® C Runtime Library
C:\PROGRA~1\DIRECT~1\adapvst2.dll , Kirill Katsnelson , DirectiXer, VST2 DirectX Adapter
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv , Microsoft Corporation , Microsoft® Windows® Operating System, WDM Audio driver mapper
C:\WINDOWS\system32\myokent.dll , Jamie O'Connell , MIDI Yoke Junction NT, MIDI Yoke Junction NT
C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll , Microsoft Corporation , Microsoft® Windows® Operating System, MCI API DLL
C:\WINDOWS\system32\WMVCore.DLL , Microsoft Corporation , Microsoft® Windows Media Services, Windows Media Playback/Authoring DLL
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll , Microsoft Corporation , Microsoft® Windows® Operating System, Remote Procedure Call Runtime
C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR 5 Producer Edition\TTSRES14.DLL , Twelve Tone Systems, Inc. , SONAR 5 Producer Edition, SONARPDR.EXE
 
********************************************************************************


ThreadID: 1284

Execute Address:
7C90E4F4 ntdll.dll!KiFastSystemCallRet
 
Call Stack:
0013F0F8 7C901046 ntdll.dll!RtlEnterCriticalSection+0x46
0013F164 009B9B5F SONARPDR.EXE+0x5b9b5f
0013F180 006B4F48 SONARPDR.EXE+0x2b4f48
0013F1D4 006B5E98 SONARPDR.EXE+0x2b5e98
0013F1F0 7C27CE71 MFC71U.DLL+0x2ce71
0013F220 7C27D571 MFC71U.DLL+0x2d571
0013F254 005E2129 SONARPDR.EXE+0x1e2129
0013F28C 7C28522C MFC71U.DLL+0x3522c
0013F2DC 7C2853A3 MFC71U.DLL+0x353a3
0013F3A0 7C27B27D MFC71U.DLL+0x2b27d
0013F3C0 7C27B31C MFC71U.DLL+0x2b31c
0013F420 7C27B385 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b385
0013F440 7C27B3C3 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b3c3
0013F46C 7E418734 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x6d
0013F498 7E418816 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x14f
0013F500 7E42A013 USER32.dll!IsWindowUnicode+0xa1
0013F530 7E42A039 USER32.dll!CallWindowProcW+0x1b
0013F550 1002CFBA CJ609Lib.dll!?WindowProc@CJSubclassWnd@@MAEJIIJ@Z+0x27
0013F56C 004FC37A SONARPDR.EXE+0xfc37a
0013F588 1002D184 CJ609Lib.dll!??0CJSubclassWnd@@QAE@XZ+0x16b
0013F5C4 7E418734 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x6d
0013F5F0 7E418816 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x14f
0013F658 7E428EA0 USER32.dll!DefWindowProcW+0x180
0013F6AC 7E428EEC USER32.dll!DefWindowProcW+0x1cc
0013F6D4 7C90E453 ntdll.dll!KiUserCallbackDispatcher+0x13
0013F734 7E4292E3 USER32.dll!SendMessageW+0x49
0013F754 774448AA COMCTL32.dll+0x748aa
0013F77C 7744571B COMCTL32.dll!CreateToolbar+0xb67
0013F82C 7E418734 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x6d
0013F858 7E418816 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x14f
0013F8C0 7E42A013 USER32.dll!IsWindowUnicode+0xa1
0013F8F0 7E42A039 USER32.dll!CallWindowProcW+0x1b
0013F910 7C27ABDA MFC71U.DLL+0x2abda
0013F930 7C27C6DD MFC71U.DLL+0x2c6dd
0013F9E4 7C27B27D MFC71U.DLL+0x2b27d
0013FA04 7C27D65A MFC71U.DLL+0x2d65a
0013FA28 7C27B31C MFC71U.DLL+0x2b31c
0013FA88 7C27B385 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b385
0013FAA8 7C27B3C3 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b3c3
0013FAD4 7E418734 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x6d
0013FB00 7E418816 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x14f
0013FB68 7E4189CD USER32.dll!GetWindowLongW+0x127
0013FBC8 7E418A10 USER32.dll!DispatchMessageW+0xf
0013FBD8 7E4274FF USER32.dll!IsDialogMessageW+0xdb
0013FBFC 7C263449 MFC71U.DLL+0x13449
0013FC70 7C283857 MFC71U.DLL+0x33857
0013FD34 7C27B191 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b191
7C265CD7 6B28E8F1

Stack Data:
0013F070 7C90DF3C ntdll.dll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0xc
0013F074 7C91B22B ntdll.dll!RtlpWaitForCriticalSection+0x8c
0013F078 00000D94
0013F07C 00000000
0013F080 00000000
0013F084 0521E648
0013F088 0521E734
0013F08C 00DE1530 SONARPDR.EXE+0x9e1530
0013F090 0036A2F0 MSVCR71.dll!__RTDynamicCast+0x61
0013F094 0521E648
0013F098 00DA88A4 SONARPDR.EXE+0x9a88a4
0013F09C 0036A30F MSVCR71.dll!__RTDynamicCast+0x80
0013F0A0 0036A2A9 MSVCR71.dll!__RTDynamicCast+0x1a
0013F0A4 00000000
0013F0A8 00000000
0013F0AC 00DE1530 SONARPDR.EXE+0x9e1530
0013F0B0 00FA7030
0013F0B4 00FA8240
0013F0B8 0521E440
0013F0BC 0013F144
0013F0C0 3836AA18 adapvst2.dll+0x2aa18
0013F0C4 00000000
0013F0C8 00000000
0013F0CC 00D073F8 SONARPDR.EXE+0x9073f8
0013F0D0 0521E648
0013F0D4 0521E648
0013F0D8 00D07398 SONARPDR.EXE+0x907398
0013F0DC 0013F0A4
0013F0E0 00000000
0013F0E4 0013F128
0013F0E8 0035240D MSVCR71.dll!_except_handler3
0013F0EC 00390F78 MSVCR71.dll+0x40f78
0013F0F0 00000000
0013F0F4 00000D94
0013F0F8 0013F164
0013F0FC 7C901046 ntdll.dll!RtlEnterCriticalSection+0x46
0013F100 0021EB40
0013F104 00A13076 SONARPDR.EXE+0x613076
0013F108 0521EB40
0013F10C 0521E734
0013F110 008A3E91 SONARPDR.EXE+0x4a3e91
0013F114 00000000
0013F118 00000000
0013F11C 00DE1530 SONARPDR.EXE+0x9e1530
0013F120 0521E734
0013F124 10359FF8
0013F128 0013F1C8
0013F12C 00C03F28 SONARPDR.EXE+0x803f28
0013F130 FFFFFFFF
0013F134 0083BADC SONARPDR.EXE+0x43badc
0013F138 015BFCF8
0013F13C 00000000
0013F140 00000000
0013F144 01B8F810
0013F148 009B9804 SONARPDR.EXE+0x5b9804
0013F14C 00000000
0013F150 00000000
0013F154 00DE1530 SONARPDR.EXE+0x9e1530
0013F158 00DDE678 SONARPDR.EXE+0x9de678
0013F15C 00DE1530 SONARPDR.EXE+0x9e1530
0013F160 00DE1530 SONARPDR.EXE+0x9e1530
0013F164 0013F180
0013F168 009B9B5F SONARPDR.EXE+0x5b9b5f
0013F16C 00000000
0013F170 00961A62 SONARPDR.EXE+0x561a62
0013F184 006B4F48 SONARPDR.EXE+0x2b4f48
0013F190 00C58C80 SONARPDR.EXE+0x858c80
0013F1A0 7C282166 MFC71U.DLL+0x32166
0013F1A4 7C27CE32 MFC71U.DLL+0x2ce32
0013F1CC 00BEADB6 SONARPDR.EXE+0x7eadb6
0013F1D8 006B5E98 SONARPDR.EXE+0x2b5e98
0013F1E4 7C284884 MFC71U.DLL+0x34884
0013F1E8 00C58C80 SONARPDR.EXE+0x858c80
0013F1F4 7C27CE71 MFC71U.DLL+0x2ce71
0013F204 00411A95 SONARPDR.EXE+0x11a95
0013F224 7C27D571 MFC71U.DLL+0x2d571
0013F24C 7C316780 MFC71U.DLL+0xc6780
0013F258 005E2129 SONARPDR.EXE+0x1e2129
0013F284 00BDED74 SONARPDR.EXE+0x7ded74
0013F290 7C28522C MFC71U.DLL+0x3522c
0013F2B4 7C316CDC MFC71U.DLL+0xc6cdc
0013F2C0 7C282166 MFC71U.DLL+0x32166
0013F2C8 7E42910F USER32.dll!GetParent
0013F2D0 7C27CD0E MFC71U.DLL+0x2cd0e
0013F2E0 7C2853A3 MFC71U.DLL+0x353a3
0013F2F8 7C28DCA9 MFC71U.DLL+0x3dca9
0013F310 7C285246 MFC71U.DLL+0x35246
0013F328 7C316504 MFC71U.DLL+0xc6504
0013F334 7C27B385 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b385
0013F34C 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F354 7C27B3C3 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b3c3
0013F35C 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F374 7C3162A0 MFC71U.DLL+0xc62a0
0013F380 7E418734 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x6d
0013F398 7C3166D8 MFC71U.DLL+0xc66d8
0013F3A4 7C27B27D MFC71U.DLL+0x2b27d
0013F3C4 7C27B31C MFC71U.DLL+0x2b31c
0013F400 7C316308 MFC71U.DLL+0xc6308
0013F418 7C316504 MFC71U.DLL+0xc6504
0013F424 7C27B385 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b385
0013F43C 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F444 7C27B3C3 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b3c3
0013F464 7C3162A0 MFC71U.DLL+0xc62a0
0013F470 7E418734 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x6d
0013F484 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F494 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F49C 7E418816 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x14f
0013F4A0 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F4B8 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F4D8 7E418734 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x6d
0013F4EC 1002D103 CJ609Lib.dll!??0CJSubclassWnd@@QAE@XZ+0xea
0013F4F4 7E44048F USER32.dll!DeregisterShellHookWindow+0x1cf
0013F4F8 7E418830 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x169
0013F504 7E42A013 USER32.dll!IsWindowUnicode+0xa1
0013F50C 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F534 7E42A039 USER32.dll!CallWindowProcW+0x1b
0013F538 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F554 1002CFBA CJ609Lib.dll!?WindowProc@CJSubclassWnd@@MAEJIIJ@Z+0x27
0013F558 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F570 004FC37A SONARPDR.EXE+0xfc37a
0013F58C 1002D184 CJ609Lib.dll!??0CJSubclassWnd@@QAE@XZ+0x16b
0013F5A0 1002D103 CJ609Lib.dll!??0CJSubclassWnd@@QAE@XZ+0xea
0013F5C8 7E418734 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x6d
0013F5DC 1002D103 CJ609Lib.dll!??0CJSubclassWnd@@QAE@XZ+0xea
0013F5EC 1002D103 CJ609Lib.dll!??0CJSubclassWnd@@QAE@XZ+0xea
0013F5F4 7E418816 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x14f
0013F5F8 1002D103 CJ609Lib.dll!??0CJSubclassWnd@@QAE@XZ+0xea
0013F64C 7E44048F USER32.dll!DeregisterShellHookWindow+0x1cf
0013F650 7E418830 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x169
0013F65C 7E428EA0 USER32.dll!DefWindowProcW+0x180
0013F664 1002D103 CJ609Lib.dll!??0CJSubclassWnd@@QAE@XZ+0xea
0013F6A0 7E44048F USER32.dll!DeregisterShellHookWindow+0x1cf
0013F6A4 7E428EB0 USER32.dll!DefWindowProcW+0x190
0013F6B0 7E428EEC USER32.dll!DefWindowProcW+0x1cc
0013F6C4 1002D103 CJ609Lib.dll!??0CJSubclassWnd@@QAE@XZ+0xea
0013F6D8 7C90E453 ntdll.dll!KiUserCallbackDispatcher+0x13
0013F6F4 1002D103 CJ609Lib.dll!??0CJSubclassWnd@@QAE@XZ+0xea
0013F6F8 7E428E53 USER32.dll!DefWindowProcW+0x133
0013F6FC 7E4194BE USER32.dll!GetWindowLongA+0x61
0013F700 7E42C174 USER32.dll!SetPropW+0xbb
0013F720 7E429313 USER32.dll!IsWindow
0013F738 7E4292E3 USER32.dll!SendMessageW+0x49
0013F758 774448AA COMCTL32.dll+0x748aa
0013F780 7744571B COMCTL32.dll!CreateToolbar+0xb67
0013F79C 77444BEB COMCTL32.dll!CreateToolbar+0x37
0013F7A4 7C316504 MFC71U.DLL+0xc6504
0013F7B0 7C27B385 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b385
0013F7C8 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F7D0 7C27B3C3 MFC71U.DLL+0x2b3c3
0013F7D8 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F7F0 7C3162A0 MFC71U.DLL+0xc62a0
0013F7FC 7E418734 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x6d
0013F810 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F820 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F830 7E418734 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x6d
0013F844 77444BEB COMCTL32.dll!CreateToolbar+0x37
0013F854 77444BEB COMCTL32.dll!CreateToolbar+0x37
0013F85C 7E418816 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x14f
0013F860 77444BEB COMCTL32.dll!CreateToolbar+0x37
0013F878 77444BEB COMCTL32.dll!CreateToolbar+0x37
0013F87C 00A3921B SONARPDR.EXE+0x63921b
0013F8B4 7E44048F USER32.dll!DeregisterShellHookWindow+0x1cf
0013F8B8 7E418830 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x169
0013F8C4 7E42A013 USER32.dll!IsWindowUnicode+0xa1
0013F8CC 77444BEB COMCTL32.dll!CreateToolbar+0x37
0013F8F4 7E42A039 USER32.dll!CallWindowProcW+0x1b
0013F8F8 77444BEB COMCTL32.dll!CreateToolbar+0x37
0013F914 7C27ABDA MFC71U.DLL+0x2abda
0013F918 77444BEB COMCTL32.dll!CreateToolbar+0x37
0013F934 7C27C6DD MFC71U.DLL+0x2c6dd
0013F948 00A39242 SONARPDR.EXE+0x639242
0013F950 7C27D4B1 MFC71U.DLL+0x2d4b1
0013F994 7E44048F USER32.dll!DeregisterShellHookWindow+0x1cf
0013F998 7E418830 USER32.dll!GetDC+0x169
0013F9A0 7E41882A USER32.dll!GetDC+0x163
0013F9A4 7E42A013 USER32.dll!IsWindowUnicode+0xa1
0013F9AC 7C27B38A MFC71U.DLL+0x2b38a
0013F9D0 00CC5CD8 SONARPDR.EXE+0x8c5cd8
0013F9DC 7C3166D8 MFC71U.DLL+0xc66d8
0013F9E8 7C27B27D MFC71U.DLL+0x2b27d
0013F9F4 00CC5D70 SONARPDR.EXE+0x8c5d70
0013FA08 7C27D65A MFC71U.DLL+0x2d65a
 
Processor Registers:
EAX: 00000000
EBX: 00000000
ECX: 00000000
EDX: 00000000
ESI: 0521EB40
EDI: 00000000
EBP: 0013F0F8
ESP: 0013F070
EIP: 7C90E4F4 ntdll.dll!KiFastSystemCallRet
 

Have you checked for IRQ conflicts between your graphics card & your Firewire PCI card? Or other IRQ conflicts?
Your dump reminded me of an issue I had 20 years ago on WinXP with an old M-Audio Delta PCI card and some other stuff I had in there-gaming graphics card, SW1000XG, etc. Or maybe it was the Adaptec SCSI card, not fond memories.
Anyway, check your IRQs in Device Manager, IIRC 16 is a troublesome one. Remove any less-important devices that use the same number or at least try to change its IRQ. Or move it to another slot. Probably not helpful but worth a look.

Yes, IRQ's is something I was careful about from the beginning, HOWEVER, there is no controlling the IRQ mapping on this motherboard.  That's why I intentionally changed to a PCIe firewire card when I built the system.  There's no other cards, just the PCIe firewire. Turned off network card, turned off parallel port and serial port.  Using onboard GPU.  I still think there may be some kind of conflict though between the graphics and audio/firewire.  I'm trying to get the full history for the audio driver from RME....the release notes currently don't go back far enough so I can't see what may have been fixed.  I darn sure don't want to risk installing an audio driver that is 10 years newer unless I'm confident there was actually something in there that might fix the problem.  I never had issues before on my W2K box with the driver - ran flawlessly.  If only I knew whether this problem was due to XP (or SP3) or not, it would greatly narrow things down as to whether I should roll back to W2K.  Ugh.  Everything is working great but for this one sporadic issue - but it's a MAJOR problem because I lose all my work between saves.

Looks like it's crashing after trying to find a missing file?
\\?\1394#a35&2#411908221350a00#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\hdspfireu
ud.drv
Something to do with firewire, KS audio driver, & RME driver. Did you try switching Driver Mode?

I saw that but I think it's just data on the stack, something which the tool is making a best guess at as to it's relevance to the hang. There is no such file, I even Googled it and no such thing.  I'm leaning toward this not being a driver thing.... probably not even a HW thing.  It seems more likely related to a plug-in, a setting or incompatibility with XP/SP3.   If this was a driver or HW thing I'd most likely be seeing all kinds of other problems, and more frequently.  But this is isolated just to Sonar 5 - usually when the transport stops, and is very intermittent.
 
The fact the friggin' problem is not reliably reproducible is making it a nightmare to narrow down.....

I keep remembering lots of problems I had with elaborate MIDI Yoke loopback configs with Yamaha synths/samplers that send lots of extra MIDI info when Stop is pressed. Also a google search "sonar hangs when pressing stop" shows several other Sonar 4/5 users with a similar problem from 12 years ago, but no resolution to those threads. I also vaguely remembering having lots of issues when running DXi synths simultaneously with VSTis with that horrid Cakewalk VST wrapper. If it happens only when the transport is stopped, maybe try monitoring & logging disk i/o with one of the sysinternals apps. Or running CrystalDiskInfo. Sorry if I'm just adding to your frustration.

No worry, by all means please keep any ideas coming !!
 
I too wondered about MIDI Yoke but I'm not using it right now and yet still crashing.  And I never had a problem with MY on W2K.  Also, i have no external MIDI devices either, just Superior Drummer VSTi.  I did indeed search like crazy on the forum and Google all over...and found exactly as you mention - there were some others in the S4/S5 era with hang problems but no resolution.  Keep in mind, I'm using ALL the EXACT same software as before on my previous W2K DAW - and same audio interface & drivers.  There's no new equation here except for XP and a dual-core Intel Pentium (as compared to my previous P4 single core).   It does seem, as you point out, some internal operation(s) may be happening upon stop, but what I have no idea.  If it was a disk problem it would almost surely be showing itself in other areas, not just Sonar under this one specific hang scenario.   

Have you caught up on the latest news that Sonar no longer exists but has been bought by Soundlab and released as free software just a few days ago. All you need do is go to BandLab.com, sign up to a free account and download the latest version of what is now called Cakewalk by Bamdlab. You’d get about 10-12 years of development for free.

That's great to hear, but the latest Sonar won't run on anything but Win7 or later, right?  Or maybe even requires Win10 by now??   I won't be able to load all my existing software on a "modern" machine.  And who's to say I won't run into even worse problems on a "new" machine?   I'm 100% fine with the features of my existing software and have way more horsepower now than i'll ever need with this new XP box.   And I'll remain compatible with 15 years of projects.   So thanks very much, sincerely, for point out the pathway of a free Sonar upgrade (which I may download anyway to have for the future just in case), but I really need to focus on getting the present DAW quirk figured out.