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  • POW-R Dithering is missing in Bandlab Sonar
2018/04/07 02:17:35
gswitz
Just noticed.
2018/04/07 02:24:32
noynekker
Yes, it was discussed in another thread . . . they had to lose all the plugins that required contractual payments in the previous Cakewalk (Sonar) software, the new version is missing anything that had a contractual tie . . . like Melodyne Essential, Blue Tubes etc ...POW-R dithering was also a casualty.
2018/04/07 02:33:49
bitflipper
Geoff, are you an Ozone user? Its MBIT+ dither algorithm is every bit as good as Pow-R. Or maybe you use Pro-L, Elephant or Waves L2? All offer dither options.
 
Which is assuming plain ol' triangular dither isn't good enough for ya. Before you dismiss it, try it. Listen to it. Listen really, really hard. Make a test track and insert some thick reverb with a long tail. Export it with various dither algorithms and do a blind A/B test, on speakers and on high-quality cans. I've done just that with every dither algorithm I have but I won't spoil the surprise.
 
2018/04/07 02:40:31
scook
Pow-r is in the Adaptive Limiter.
2018/04/07 03:32:59
Meng
Hey guys, I know there's been a few threads/posts back and forth on this. It was correct that this was something originally not planned to be included in CbB because it wasn't really viable as a 3rd party algorithm.

But I realise this is workflow related and something that doesn't just stick around if you've had a previous version of SONAR. The last thing we want is to have to create another step in the workflow.

Thanks to the unbelievable way people have supported us via the Tip Jar and some ongoing conversations we've had - we've discussed this internally and I'm 90% confident we'll have it all sorted and back in the next update to CbB. Will keep you updated and apologies for the inconvenience in the meantime if it is a feature that is important to you.
2018/04/07 03:42:12
scook
amazing
2018/04/07 06:40:48
Daibhidh
meng
Hey guys, I know there's been a few threads/posts back and forth on this. It was correct that this was something originally not planned to be included in CbB because it wasn't really viable as a 3rd party algorithm.

But I realise this is workflow related and something that doesn't just stick around if you've had a previous version of SONAR. The last thing we want is to have to create another step in the workflow.

Thanks to the unbelievable way people have supported us via the Tip Jar and some ongoing conversations we've had - we've discussed this internally and I'm 90% confident we'll have it all sorted and back in the next update to CbB. Will keep you updated and apologies for the inconvenience in the meantime if it is a feature that is important to you.


The fact you'd even talk about this here shows how seriously you take the users.
I'm not one for whom this is a huge issue, as I'm a composer,
(not a studio engineer who's constantly rendering projects in different formats)
but I had one thought. You previously mentioned about people who have their Cakewalk accounts linked to their Bandlab account with the same email having extra features. Well, all those people have technically paid for POW-R licenses when they purchased Sonar, so you could just enable it for previous Sonar users only,
while newbies downloading it for the first time will not have it in their version, cause they haven't paid for it.
The only problem is technically you have to make two different builds of the DAW, one with it and one without.

I don't know how you plan to figure out this issue which only affects a minority of users,
but I think it's amazing that you care this much!




2018/04/07 08:45:47
Skyline_UK
Sincere thanks Meng. Customer service par excellence!  (Again...!)

2018/04/07 08:57:05
marled
meng
We've discussed this internally and I'm 90% confident we'll have it all sorted and back in the next update to CbB. Will keep you updated and apologies for the inconvenience in the meantime if it is a feature that is important to you.

Great! Many, many thanks, Meng!
 
Daibhidh
... I don't know how you plan to figure out this issue which only affects a minority of users, ...

Minority: This is your opinion only, I don't know if that is really the case!
 
Regards Marc
2018/04/07 10:40:57
wetdentist
great news.  thanks, Meng
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