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2018/04/07 11:24:59
elsongs
I think this and the other 3rd party features will likely return, it's just that Bandlab has to have formal agreements with those manufacturers before they can go public, since the current contract is with "Cakewalk Inc." It'sone of those things the lawyers and bean counters have to hammer out first. Remember, it's only been 5 months since the Gibson-induced Cakewalk Coma.
2018/04/07 11:33:31
royarn
Well that's true dedication, thanks Meng.
Roy
2018/04/07 15:30:33
davehorch
scook
amazing


Indeed!!
2018/04/07 15:48:40
digimidi
Thanks, Meng, for the information about the algorithm.  I truly do use it and miss it for rendering down.  I hope you can resolve this in some manner as you have indicated.
 
Cheers!
2018/04/07 16:06:24
gswitz
bitflipper
Geoff, are you an Ozone user? 

 
I'm not an Ozone user and I realize the dither choice at 24 bit doesn't matter. Still, I like the idea of using the shaped dither just because. :-)
 
I'm not sure this is something that's really important to me. By this I mean, I'm not sure that Bandlab should use their limited resources on dither.
 
To tell the truth, you know what I'd gladly pay for is all the codecs so that the video stuff would work like it used to. The video stuff has no codecs and windows doesn't come with them and so the video functionality is compromised.
 
I don't feel safe downloading some codec pack from bittorrent. I want to just pay for them, but I don't know what to buy.
 
Am I stealing my own thread?
2018/04/07 17:56:32
bitflipper
I hadn't even thought about video codecs, not being a video guy. Which ones are missing?
 
I agree, I'd rather pay for a tested and supported component, whether it's a dither algorithm, a video codec or an audio-stretching algorithm (weren't those licensed from iZotope?).
 
Seems like it would be a simple matter to include such third-party components in the standard executable, but selectively disable them based on a license file. That way, you could pay to unlock those features if they were important to you. Would you pay 5 bucks for Pow-R? Or an MPEG-4 codec? Many of us happily paid for an MP3 encoder back before its patent ran out.
2018/04/07 18:46:34
gswitz
Back with Windows 7, they were included with Windows, I think. When Windows went to a free version, like Sonar removing dither, Windows removed codecs.
 
These are screenshots I took in 2016, but I think they are still relevant. 
 
At the time, I think I was told to go buy some kind of video editor, but I never knew which one and as I really just wanted codecs it was a hard thing to shop for. They don't say 'includes the codecs you want, Switz.' in the adverts.
 
It used to be the videos I would upload could be played back at high def, but now 240 seems the highest they go.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMaDVdXxC4M
 

 
 

2018/04/07 22:55:54
cityrat
wow - response from the top guy.   And no legal speak - just honest communication. 
I'm liking this a lot.
2018/04/07 23:54:26
batsbrew
fwiw,
for all the years i've used sonar,
i've never used it's dither.
 
i always have used the dither in Waves L2.
 
there are good options.
2018/04/08 20:52:25
marled
Waves? Their licensing model stinks to hell! So does their shell implementation! I wasted my money buying some of their plugins.
 
Regards Marc
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