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  • [Plugin now available] Would a "Sidechain Mixer" plugin be useful to anyone? (p.6)
2015/01/26 21:32:39
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
SilkTone
One weird thing I noticed...
 
I wasn't sure what the plugin will do with mono tracks, so I played around with the track interleave buttons. If the 1st track going into the plugin is mono, all subsequent tracks will be treated as mono (???). However if any of the non-first track is mono, then you get the expected behavior.
 
Maybe Noel knows why it is acting this way. I don't think it is a big deal as it is easy to make sure at least the very 1st track is stereo.




Right because the first track to route to the plugin actually establishes the interleave setting. Subsequent tracks are simply mixed in using the same interleave.
2015/01/26 21:34:04
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
AndreyB
Mod Bod
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I understand the request but why is it important? :)

Parallel processing.

I may be missing out something, but won't be the current bus-routing manner with pre/post-fader sends more natural for parallel processing? After all, it would be nice to have send amounts on one source track (and automate them on that very track) than to have to hunt input gains on the receiving tracks.




Exactly. If we did it it would follow the same paradigm as sends today.
2015/01/26 21:36:00
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Mod Bod
EDIT:  Just for giggles, I tried arming record mode and recording to the destination track.  As expected, no recording.  No, Freeze doesn't work either.  



Recording only works with hardware inputs in SONAR. It has a lot of baggage related to audio devices.
Freeze only works on stuff inside tracks (the clips view) not live inputs.
2015/01/27 01:01:42
Razorwit
SilkTone, you are a prince among Sonarites.
I just took two snare tracks (top and bottom mic), EQ'd each of them, sent them via your plugin to a track next to them called snare, compressed and added a bit of reverb to that track, and then hid the top and bottom snare mic tracks so I only had one track called "snare" (natch). Now if I feel like going back and changing relative mic levels or EQ I'll just un-hide, adjust, and re-hide, and all the rest of the time I just have a single track called "Snare" to work with. It get sent to the "Drum" bus, which is in the bus section just like god intended.
Yay. If you ever stop through my neck of the woods look me up. I owe you a beer or six.
Thanks again,
Dean
 
 
EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention, another way around the mute/solo thing aside from folders is to group the mute and solo buttons. Works great.
2015/01/27 06:26:20
Dave Modisette
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Mod Bod
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I understand the request but why is it important? :)

Parallel processing.



I was referring to this statement "It would be important that the routing be accomplished via the input of the destination track (or some means other than the source track output)." 
 
Why is it important to you that routing is accomplished via the input rather than the output as it is today for sends to buses. I woudn't want to change the UI paradigm just for this.

I thought we were talking about routing a track to a track. Yes, an aux would need a send.
2015/01/27 10:58:40
SilkTone
Razorwit
EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention, another way around the mute/solo thing aside from folders is to group the mute and solo buttons. Works great.

 
Yes I played with this and the grouping feature works well for this purpose. However as far as I can tell, we don't need it for the mute buttons, only the solo buttons. Not grouping the mute buttons will allow us to mute individual tracks going into the track bus, sort of a "reverse solo" since we can't solo individual tracks.
2015/01/27 11:09:14
Anderton
Wow Silktone...I'm impressed. Wish I knew how to code on that level. Thank you!!
2015/01/27 11:29:04
joel77
Thank you Steven (Silktone)!!
 
Going to DL, install and give this a try.
 
Thanks again!
2015/02/07 11:16:43
sdupayage
Hi,
 
I like the idea of the plugin as it brings some of the organization we can experiment with some other DAWs.
 
But I have a question. What would be the inconveniences of basically using the tracks as "raw materials" where you do in track adjustments and then send all of them on their own bus and start mixing on the bus pane hiding completely the track pane where we can actually do bus to bus sends and organize the way we want? (I hope I'm clear on this one).
 
My idea is use the track view as if it was a tape recording and only use the buses to do the mix not touching anything on the tracks (except very track specific processing).
 
Any view on this?
 
Thanks,
Stéphane
2015/02/07 14:39:43
subtlearts
Tried. Works. Simple. Don't know if I'll have a ton of use for it, but it certainly does what it says on the tin! Simple is good. 
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