g_randybrown
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I was thinking that "Studio Prog" is included in AD2 itself?

I hope so. That would be great.
 
Sorry, guys. I actually just stuck with the first kit that sounded good with AD2 (and it sounded REALLY good) on my current project. It was just for tracking. I was going to tweak it later. I've mostly used BFD Eco for my drums so AD is still relatively new to me.

ptheisen
Just thought I'd mention for those considering the Studio Prog AdPak as part of the package that comes with Platinum, if you already have AD1, you already have Studio Prog, Studio Pop and Studio Rock, and all three (plus any others you may have previously purchased for AD1) can be updated to AD2 status for one "upgrade" price.
 
This upgrade is not included with Platinum , but it is only $80 from XLN and sometimes they put it on sale. So, if you think you might also go the XLN upgrade route at some point, you probably do not want to choose any of the AD1 AdPaks you already have as part of the package you get with Platinum. That way, you'll have six (or more) different AdPaks and the only additional expense is the price of the XLN upgrade.
 
That's my plan, and I'm trying to be patient enough to wait for XLN to put the AD1 to AD2 upgrade on sale.

Okay... I think I'm starting to get this. I already have the Prog pak for AD1 but would have to pay to use it in AD2. Is that right?
 
If that is the case... once I upgrade to AD2 will I still be able to use AD1 as a separate VST (as in it shows up in my Instruments Browser as a completely different synth)? Or does the upgrade to AD2 wipe out/conflict with AD1 thus making the Prog kit unuseable?
 
I'm sure that has been covered multiple times but I haven't been paying much attention to the many AD threads since the update.
 
And just to clarify what I mean is... I would just use AD1 for the Prog kit when I needed it then AD2 for whatever else.

g_randybrown
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I was thinking that "Studio Prog" is included in AD2 itself?

That is the weird thing. There is no AD2. Not to buy by itself. anyway. Either you get AD2 by upgrading AD1 or by getting AD packs or bundles of AD2 AD packs. It has caused much confusion with people. There is no AD2 by itself at the XLN store and I don't see the upgrade anymore either. I do still think this Addictive Drums 2, 9 piece bundle is the best third party add on I have seen. $249.95 at XLN right now.

ptheisen
Just thought I'd mention for those considering the Studio Prog AdPak as part of the package that comes with Platinum, if you already have AD1, you already have Studio Prog, Studio Pop and Studio Rock, and all three (plus any others you may have previously purchased for AD1) can be updated to AD2 status for one "upgrade" price.
 
This upgrade is not included with Platinum , but it is only $80 from XLN and sometimes they put it on sale. So, if you think you might also go the XLN upgrade route at some point, you probably do not want to choose any of the AD1 AdPaks you already have as part of the package you get with Platinum. That way, you'll have six (or more) different AdPaks and the only additional expense is the price of the XLN upgrade.
 
That's my plan, and I'm trying to be patient enough to wait for XLN to put the AD1 to AD2 upgrade on sale.

ptheisen where did you see the upgrade at the store? I was just there and did not see it. And you are going at this smart, I believe. If you get anything off that $80.00 that will be a very good deal.

I'm looking at AD1 on my DAW right now. Not seeing the Studio Prog kit anywhere.

Okay... I think I'm starting to get this. I already have the Prog pak for AD1 but would have to pay to use it in AD2. Is that right?
 
If that is the case... once I upgrade to AD2 will I still be able to use AD1 as a separate VST (as in it shows up in my Instruments Browser as a completely different synth)? Or does the upgrade to AD2 wipe out/conflict with AD1 thus making the Prog kit unuseable?
 
I'm sure that has been covered multiple times but I haven't been paying much attention to the many AD threads since the update.
 
And just to clarify what I mean is... I would just use AD1 for the Prog kit when I needed it then AD2 for whatever else.
 
 
 
 
Beep you are correct on all of it. AD1 is still there and has no restrictions. Prog Pop and Rock will be able to be used whenever you want. Notice how the pictures of those kits at the XLN store are all blue and look the same as in AD1.
You have 6 Addictive Drums kits between the two of them. The Studio Prog Pop and Rock kits are the same but the names are new for AD2.
 

The Prog kit is DW Collectors with Sabian and Paiste if I recall. Pop is the Sonor and Rock is the Tama.

BassDaddy
The Prog kit is DW Collectors with Sabian and Paiste if I recall. Pop is the Sonor and Rock is the Tama.

Okay, under... 
 
AD > Clean > DW Kit
 
I'm seeing the DW Collectors/Paiste/etc kit. It does sound good but it's dry and I'm not seeing any "Prog" presets or references anywhere in any of the sub menus. Perhaps what the Studio Prog pack does is takes those samples and makes them more useful. I tried cruising around some of the other style presets with that kit loaded but it changes the kit. What I figured was with the Studio Prog pack I'd have a whole submenu just for that stuff and a new kit but maybe it does that but I would not get a new kit. Maybe later adopters of AD1 got some Prog settings or something. I'm also looking in my store account to make sure I did not miss any additional adpaks from back then and there are none so either they were not provided or were removed upon the release of AD2.
 
Whatever is going on this does factor in heavily to whatever decisions are going to be made in regards to the AdPaks I choose. I'll have to learn more about what's up with that Studio Prog thing and may email XLN to find out what's up. They have indeed made things rather strange and confusing and I'm not digging the updated website (which I've already wrestled with after getting X3... the old site was much simpler to use).
 
It is now down to a decision based on whether it's worth it to me to snag the update/adpack for the Studio Prog/DW Collector kit or whether I want to try to tweak it myself. Playing around with it briefly it does seem to be a very useable sound but I was kind of hoping for some lazy "set it and forget it" action which I don't think this provides as is and I'm not sure whether the upgrade will even give me that luxury.
 
Thank you for pointing it out though.
 
I think the current plan will remain the same as far as snagging the Fairfax Vol 1 (after I do some other tests with Platinum) and try to gather more info on this Studio Prog business and how XLN are creating these adpaks. If they are merely recycling existing samples with different FX presets applied and charging money for it... well that's not very cool IMO. It's a great sounding program though so whatever. If it works and saves time then I guess that's the point.
 
I am also happy to hear that I will be able to access AD1 and AD2 separately so I can make a decent comparison between the two. I was worried about wiping out the original version. I was going to create a restore point to reverse the AD2 install if it did wipe out AD1 (and still will anyway just in case).
 
Cheers.

And just to clarify XLN's new release model...
 
You buy a kit for $89 and get the full AD2 program but only one kit, whatever FX/mixer presets and loops that come with that kit?
 
Then there is some kind of deluxe package with multiple kits?
 
Strange but I guess it works. You'd figure existing users would get a deal on those AdPaks though if that is the case.
 
 
Edit: Then again I guess considering what some drum sample packs go for elsewhere (like $200+ just for one set of nice samples) $89 ain't bad depending on the quality. I really need to play around with this stuff more.

Beepster,
 
I'm not speaking from experience (yet), but I tend to read things very carefully, and my understanding confirms what BassDaddy said: AD1 and AD2 will be completely separate VSTs. Whatever you had for AD1 will still be useable in AD1 under the AD1 conditions. Whatever AD2 kits you get in the future, as well as any AD1 kits you pay to upgrade to AD2, will be useable in AD2 under the AD2 conditions, which includes new names for the AD1 kits and probably new presets, so this hopefully justifies the charge for the upgrade of the AD1 kits. XLN has to stay in business too.
 
BassDaddy,
 
It's possible that XLN's website is smart enough to know, based your login, whether you've already purchased the AD1 to AD2 upgrade. I haven't, and I see it offered when I go to http://www.xlnaudio.com/addictivedrums. I've noticed that it is aware of what I already have when I go to the pages for individual kits and pieces.