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2015/01/24 19:51:53
mixmkr
Isn't the Raven kinda what you're looking for?  Touch screen seems appealing to me, but I mix and record so differently from the "hardware" days, that I'm not constantly tweeking and fiddling, like I did on a large format console and outboard gear.  More precise edits and stuff like that are the norm, and the control seems there with the mouse.  I'd have to really see it in {useful} action to be convinced, and not just by the technology of being able to do it, sans mouse.
2015/01/24 19:55:16
Dave Modisette
mixmkr
Isn't the Raven kinda what you're looking for?  Touch screen seems appealing to me, but I mix and record so differently from the "hardware" days, that I'm not constantly tweeking and fiddling, like I did on a large format console and outboard gear.  More precise edits and stuff like that are the norm, and the control seems there with the mouse.  I'd have to really see it in {useful} action to be convinced, and not just by the technology of being able to do it, sans mouse.


Yeah, but the Raven is stoooopid expensive and it only works in certain environments at the moment.
2015/01/24 20:07:52
gswitz
Mod Bod, you read a lot about people having trouble getting two touch screens to work together or only being able to set up the primary screen as the touch. I can tell you I have configured more than one touch screen and I have also worked with two monitors where the first monitor was NOT the touch screen.
 
Now, I can't speak to every brand of touch screen. But I can tell you that it's confusing how to configure it on Windows. It took some fiddling to figure out how to properly identify the touch with the monitor that the touch is for. I'm convinced that is the majority of the troubs you read about on the web.
 
Can I get some backup from the Bakers on this? Or Craig?
 
Mod Bod, see this link...
http://www.surfacegeeks.net/forums/index.php?/topic/555-how-to-configure-dual-touchscreens-on-windows-8/
 
I think that's the trick.
 
Just to add, touch works on all kinds of things, including Linux Ubuntu Studio. Just because some apps don't support multipoint touch doesn't mean they don't support touch at all.
2015/01/24 20:23:46
Cookie Jarvis
Dave, you have a great setup already, I'd leave it be. Why get rid of the real stuff to use emulations of the real stuff you already have??? The only reason for touch is budgetary concerns and you've already made the investment in real equipment. Just because something is cheaper it doesn't make it better :)
 
Bill
2015/01/24 20:26:53
Dave Modisette
Cookie Jarvis
Dave, you have a great setup already, I'd leave it be. Why get rid of the real stuff to use emulations of the real stuff you already have??? The only reason for touch is budgetary concerns and you've already made the investment in real equipment. Just because something is cheaper it doesn't make it better :)
 
Bill


You have a very good point.
2015/01/24 20:54:58
jimkleban
Mod Bod,
 
I used to have twin touch screens, but went back to one and one... I found that mixing with the mouse worked better for me but navigation on the console view, I use swipe motions to move from track area to track area on the touch screen. Perhaps not really liking the touch console view, had something to do with reaching comments and the mouse was more comfortable.  
 
I had 2 27 inch touch monitors and they weren't big enough for me to mix with.... and the larger screens are a bit out of my price range. I gave one of the monitors to one of my kids (if you call a son 30 something a kid still) and went back to an IPS non touch 30 inch screen to use with the mouse on the track mode screen.
 
So, I think it was a good idea to have a desktop made and tilt the screens like an old mixing desk and then make it low enough so that you hands resting naturally where the faders would be.  Maybe a project for when I retire from my day gig.
 
Jim
 
 
 
2015/01/24 22:52:36
kenny@vhprecords.com
Cool set up! Ok this is just my opinion but here we go. Your Mackies look SICK!! I would stick with them and use an iPad running Daw Remote HD or something similar. Nothing like feeling some knobs and faders and you can use them whilst looking up at the screen. With a Touchscreen you will be looking down all the time and that won't be good for your neck. With the Ipad you can bring it right up to your face when you need to use it and to be honest touchscreen monitors for music mixing is a non-starter. I use 3 Behringer Controllers which works well for me (other than the noise factor). The Mackies are out of my budget range right now but I would get them if I need to upgrade. Waiting for the new Behringer controllers to be released first. 
2015/03/10 09:38:28
smallstonefan
I just wanted to chime in - I sold my Mackie Control Universal Pro a few months back when I bought a 27" touch screen. I mounted it at an angle below my primary monitor to mimic a console, sort of. I was SO PUMPED about this set up, but I was sorely disappointed by touch - I found the console view in Sonar very cumbersome with touch. The buttons are too small (same with the transport), and the sliders never reacted quite the way you would expect.
 
I ordered a new Mackie Control Unversal Pro and hooked it up last night - ahhhhhh! It's like coming home. I love the promise of touch, but the Mackie just works and works REALLY well, is intuitive, and stuff moves. :) The new version has updated faders (Penny and Giles) and they are a nice improvement.
2015/03/10 09:45:36
Kamikaze
I have a touchscreen laptop and went for full HD as Cake recommends, but being a laptop it's only 15.6". If you go full HD, then make sure it really is much bigger than this. Running the screen at default size as recommended by Windows, is not recommended by cakewalk, and mouse functions become buggy. This means you have to set to 'smaller' which is windows 8's now 100%. Setting the touchscreen to smaller, make the console view mush less usable and really clumsy. so they recommend setting to smaller, but re-setting the resolution to lower level, negating to point of getting a full hd
 
If you get a full HD, make sure it's big. If you don't have room for 2 big screens, don't bother going full HD, as you may not gain the benefit of doing so.
2015/03/10 09:48:33
garygml
love the set up....swinging a little bit off key how do you set up 2 monitors?
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