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  • Deleting Empty Measures... SOLVED!! (p.2)
2018/04/08 18:04:42
yorolpal
automation envelopes don't wear makeup.
 
And there's no imported audio in the project.  But seems a shame you can't delete empty measures...don't ya thank??
2018/04/09 11:55:26
James Argo
yorolpal
And there's no imported audio in the project.  But seems a shame you can't delete empty measures...don't ya thank??



As Scook mentioned above, try ripple edit. FYI, you can "delete empty measures" using Ripple Editing.
2018/04/09 19:08:31
yorolpal
Welp...Ripple Editing didn't work on it either...or at all.  Or I wasn't doing it right.  But I watched a YouTube video on how to use it so I'm pretty sure I was.  
 
Also...I found out it's not just that project but several projects that I pulled up after I got the new DAW up and running...and...maybe...just after I installed the new CfB.
I pulled up several older projects and they don't seem affected so that's good but there are three or four that are.
 
Again, no biggie as I can time select if and when I need to export...but...these projects have quite literally thousands of extra measures.  No foolin.
 
2018/04/11 20:25:15
yorolpal
Now it turns out that ALL my projects have several thousand empty measures after the tune has ended.  Really...hasn't anyone else seen this behavior??  Ever??  
2018/04/11 20:43:08
carlman
Check if there's any markers or any other events after the ending of the tune & delete them.
2018/04/11 20:48:40
Base 57
No I have never seen that.
 
So are you saying that when you hit Cntrl-A the entire project is selected plus 1000 measures? And that after selecting "All" if you put the "From" time at the desired end of the project you cannot delete those 1000 measures with "Ripple Edit All"?
 
Is there nothing in the event list after the desired end?
 
I have no idea what would cause this or how to fix it. I'm just trying to get my head around it. Maybe a plug-in is generating some kind of data stream?
 
 
 
 
 
 
2018/04/11 21:13:50
Anderton
There were often situations where some piece of data got stuck at the end and it wasn't obvious how to delete it. At least for me, ripple editing fixed that issue once and for all. However I don't think that's what's happening there.
 
Cakewalk is not a program that restricts you to a specific song length. It doesn't know how long a song you plan to record. When you open a new project, I think it defaults to 1400 measures of so. However if you keep dragging the now time to the right, Cakewalk will happily add as many measures as you want.
 
Try this test and report back on the results. Open a project and select all (Ctrl+A). If the gray line in the time ruler ends before the thousands of measures, that's the expected behavior and it indicates that your project has no more data past where the gray line in the time ruler ends. If the gray line extends for thousands of measures, then there's an anomaly.
 
As to getting rid of everything past the end of the song, I don't see any practical reason to do that. All you need to concern yourself with are the measures that contain project data. I guess it would show you definitely that "the song ends HERE," but you could also drop a marker at the end and call it "Song End" if you're not sure where the song ends.
2018/04/12 09:00:18
HarryC
I figured out if you moving a audio part to after the end of the song, the end of the song ends there, even if you delete that part later. Once you had saved. Ripple edit could not fix it. The only thing that helps is deleting that track.
 
See my post: http://forum.cakewalk.com...-the-end-m3731893.aspx
2018/04/12 10:50:18
ZincTrumpet
I have not seen that problem, but as it is in all of your projects I am wondering whether the issue exists in your default template (which you might have used to create all of the projects). Maybe the template got saved with the problem at some point without you realising?
 
If that is the case then you would have to fix the issue in the template and re-save it to avoid creating similar projects in future (assuming one of the methods above provides a fix).
2018/04/12 11:29:43
Toddskins
I had that problem a lot years ago.  Part of the solution for me (and it always seemed difficult to find again whenever I had to reinstall) was turning on the switch "Stop At Project End" which is not in preferences, but rather in the Track View's Options at the bottom of that menu.

IF not selected, the song would just run on and on, and that invited problems.
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