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  • X3 Producer: Why is it so difficult to record audio from a soft synth? (p.11)
2015/02/19 13:50:32
Earwax
Paul P
 
I just communicated with Vincent Burel of the above software and he recommends using his
Voicemeeter Audio Device Mixer for this application.
 
To me, that looks like overkill for just a loopback...
 


Hi Paul P,
After checking this out a bit, I think my current workaround allows me more flexibility. I'll keep looking at this as an option though. I appreciate you taking the time to check it out.
Thanks!
 
2015/02/19 13:58:26
mixmkr
Personally, I'm giving up... if it becomes a feature, that'd be nice.  I can physical patch things so that it is accomplished, as illustrated by my previous video link.  Craig, said he did it [what I did] another way, but that involved another interface.  Might as well have two computers then too.  One for the VST/VSTi (to play) and the other as a "tape machine" running Sonar.
 
Lastly, it seems why this feature is desirable is something from another planet to others.  Stating a case FOR was becoming more labor intensive than just doing the various other around work methods.
 
/frustrations   ;-/
2015/02/19 14:01:38
mixmkr
and lastly...if REASON can do this...wouldn't that illustrate it's a desirable feature to some?  If it was silly, you'd think it would be omitted from other programs.
 
sorry to beat that horse... 
2015/02/19 14:32:02
Earwax
mixmkr
Personally, I'm giving up... if it becomes a feature, that'd be nice.  I can physical patch things so that it is accomplished, as illustrated by my previous video link.  Craig, said he did it [what I did] another way, but that involved another interface.  Might as well have two computers then too.  One for the VST/VSTi (to play) and the other as a "tape machine" running Sonar.
 
Lastly, it seems why this feature is desirable is something from another planet to others.  Stating a case FOR was becoming more labor intensive than just doing the various other around work methods.
 
/frustrations   ;-/




mixmkr
and lastly...if REASON can do this...wouldn't that illustrate it's a desirable feature to some?  If it was silly, you'd think it would be omitted from other programs.
 
sorry to beat that horse... 


! You just made my day! This is so true! But, different people have different perspectives, experiences, and perceptions. As was pointed out in another thread, many new users will, unfortunately, probably just automatically assume that Sonar can do this. I'd imagine many of them will be less than thrilled when they find out it can't. Especially if they are coming from software that DOES allow this. 
 
Oh well..........
2015/02/19 15:00:41
blipofthefish
Luckily i own Edison (from the FL Studio era i've had). Which is a very usable VSTi plugin to record these kind of sounds coming from a soft synth
2015/02/19 16:39:28
Anderton
mixmkr
Lastly, it seems why this feature is desirable is something from another planet to others.  Stating a case FOR was becoming more labor intensive than just doing the various other around work methods.

 
Well if it had started out with your example, then it would have made a lot more sense. I've said several times where I can see this feature would be useful; it was the "MIDI doesn't accurately reproduce the MIDI data that produced the sound in the first place" that got me scratching my head.
 
(And BTW since you're into the video thang...it is possible to do what I described without two interfaces. Hypercam can record the output from SONAR, but then you can't use ASIO - you have to use some kind of Windows Audio driver. Not an ideal solution AFAIC.)
 
 
 
2015/02/19 17:27:30
mixmkr
Craig...you're a God send to these forums...Like Noel, Andrew...etc.   So I just want to make that clear.

My screen capture can also do audio, but that leaves Sonar out of the picture with multitracking.  I'm not really that deep into LOTS of virtual all at once... but I think you can "estimate" what level I'm at, I'd suspect.  Just a guitar player, sticking his nose around in other areas....  ;-)
 
In all honesty...I think the dual computer setup really is probably the best!  Spread the "load" so to speak.  In the scope of things, that's not really expensive nowadays.  Would simplify a lot of things as well.

Thx again Craig for your patience.
2015/02/19 17:35:59
dubdisciple
blipofthefish
Luckily i own Edison (from the FL Studio era i've had). Which is a very usable VSTi plugin to record these kind of sounds coming from a soft synth


You just gave me an idea
2015/02/19 20:02:59
Earwax
Anderton
mixmkr
Lastly, it seems why this feature is desirable is something from another planet to others.  Stating a case FOR was becoming more labor intensive than just doing the various other around work methods.

 
...it was the "MIDI doesn't accurately reproduce the MIDI data that produced the sound in the first place" that got me scratching my head.

Hmmmm... Not what I said, but, okay....
2015/02/19 20:31:15
AndyDavis
I have wished for this feature to help me keep from fiddling with MIDI.  I'm an inveterate fiddler.  Recording an instrument as an audio performance makes me commit. If the performance needs improvement, then I need to play it better.
 
To be fair, I can accomplish what I want with bounce, but I would rather have no window for fiddling open.
 
FWIW - Studio One can do this as well.
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