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  • Can you edit just with Touchscreen without the mouse?
2015/03/04 15:51:28
brunovaltho
Hi Guys!
I'm looking for a solution minimazing the use of the mouse (pains tendinits ...)
Can you edit just with Touchscreen without the mouse?
Thanks a lot!
2015/03/04 20:41:45
rezab
No, you can't. I actually bought Sonar because it was advertised as touch compatible. And that's not even what it is.....
 
A lot of functions (right click) / buttons are unresponsive or not behaving properly. Not to mention the small buttons in the console view.
 
When using the pro channel EQ touch is almost smooth. There is touch functionality, but no ppure touch based workflow available.
 
Mixing is doable creating music is not possible in my opinion using touch or it is so faulty I ended up using it on a desk with a mouse.
 
I think Cakewalk should do some more research on it. It is important. Not a lot of people need / want it now. But if it worked as it should. Everybody would want a palm/pock3t/lap DAW that has intuitive easy workflow that is touch based.
 
PS I use a surface pro 3
2015/03/04 20:51:48
dlesaux
I bought Music Creator as a supplement to Sonar to use on my tablet.  Most of the functionality works with the touch screen but not everything.  Some use of the mouse is still required. I'm sorry about your tendonitis!
2015/03/04 21:41:51
Sacalait
Touchscreen is not prime-time UNLESS you can afford a very high resolution monitor.  Even then, as stated, a lot of the right click mouse functions are absent.  It's too bad because I was hoping things would move that way but I don't really see it happening.  (I have a 23" Acer touchscreen and almost never use touch on it)
2015/03/04 23:15:46
Kamikaze
For mixing and plug ins it can be useful. I have a full HD screen on a 15.6" screen, making some of the knobs quite small. I have wondered about a stylus.
 
You may find that this make this aspect a habit, that this will do a little alleviate wrist issues, but then you probably want to sort out the ergonomics so not t cause another issue
 
 
2015/03/05 04:11:54
rezab
@ daniel, Does music creator have better/extended/more touch capability than Platinum? 
 
[Tendonits] Cant do it, sorry was 4 AM and i had my dictionary settings to Dutch... :|
 
I bought SOnar because it advertised touch capability. Stupid enough not to demo first or something (was there a demo available?). Was very dissapointed up to the point of writing a very angry dissapointed email. I calmed down and left it. I did mention it once in a support question but there was no word back on that part. 
 
To elaborate: I bought a surface pro 3 and Sonar to make music on the road or where ever. No such thing for now... :(
Now I am confined to a desk.... I still happily use Sonar and am learning every time I use it.  
 
To be honest, When I mix (actually once or twice for now, cause I had been busy making my system working as it should, primarily my melodyne region FX that didn't show up fixed now btw) I do like to use touch and it works with faders and EQ. Panning is difficult. I think The bakers don't have any touchscreens available. A metro interface-ish (yes I said it) UI mode (touch mode) would help (not a metro app). Simple things like the way a pan button reacts when thrying to pan is effidence to me that it wasn't tested out or there is no general idea how to make this behave. In that case ask us. I think we do :).
 
When u have a high resolution tablet or laptop screen Touch is an extra hassle as you probibly have your screen to 125 - 150% (because of the small letters on your small screen) the buttons don't work. Thhey will jump to a postition but no gradual fading.
 
So in my case I have to use these small faders with small buttons. I dont have big fingers actually on the small side. With practice it works kinda. I am happy that the bakers have put some tought in it. 
 
my 1 cent
2015/03/05 06:10:56
Kalle Rantaaho
To me it seems there's still a consensus that there is not one fully touch-usable DAW yet. A pro level DAW includes so many functions, that on a small screen they must be spread on many pages, or  you'd need a 30 inch screen minimum. All happy touch users I've met here on the forum also  use both mouse and keyboard.
Difficult ergonomics is another thing that seems to often push people away from touch-screens.
2015/03/05 06:37:12
brunovaltho
Hi Guys! Thanks a lot for all these replies!! :) I was going to buy a 27 inch Acer Touch...you make me save my money!! Thanks a lot!!
Looking for a solution in another direction. :)
2015/03/05 11:04:06
AT
I don't think touch will ever fully replace a mouse or keyboard - but you'll need all three.  That is how I work now, sliding between the three.  For a lot of typing, a traditional keyboard works best.  For a lot of small movement stuff, a mouse.  for the rest, touch.
 
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2015/03/05 11:43:44
Brando
aixmusajo
Hi Guys! Thanks a lot for all these replies!! :) I was going to buy a 27 inch Acer Touch...you make me save my money!! Thanks a lot!!
Looking for a solution in another direction. :)


That's what I have - and I agree in general at the present time, you should probably wait for prices to come down further to give Cakewalk time to improve their touch implementation. The one thing that did improve for me when I bought the touch monitor (I retired my old 22's and bought a 27" non-touch monitor at the same time) - is I went from dual side by side 22" monitors to dual 27" (one touch, one not) in a vertical arrangement. I have the touch monitor angled (Maybe 40 degrees from horizontal) in front of my keyboard/mouse, and my non-touch immediately behind. Even when not using touch on the lower monitor (multi-dock with console and docked synths and effects) it is a nicer layout for me enabling larger screen size. Just as easy to mouse back and forth vertically as horizontally.
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