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2015/03/04 23:47:08
Splat
Spencer
The guy is actually just trolling. Look at his latest response to me. No reason to entertain this kid.


Yup 2 out of 10 for effort. The standard of trolling has gone right down in these forums...
2015/03/04 23:51:26
Anderton
forkol
2) Better audio warping/alignment. Mr. Anderton says AudioSnap is good, and it may be, but for me, trying to use it on a full mix it basically produces unusable results.  I actually use Ableton to beat align/warp audio because it's so good, and maybe that's where it's going to stay, but from what I've seen, I don't think that Audiosnap (IMHO) is even as good as other DAW's, besides Ableton.

 
For the record, I said AudioSnap was good for individual tracks, but for program material, I had not found anything better than Ableton's advanced warping algorithm. Also for the record, I mentioned that Ableton's algorithm is what I use to process samples with varying tempos so they can work with Traktor (which doesn't do warping).
 
4) I would add an option to the Split Clips dialog to split at divisions of beats less than a measure, or maybe by the Snap Settings.  I know you can do this manually, or you can go into Audiosnap, but the manual way is a bit cumbersome, and I don't think you should have to haul up Audiosnap to split beats.

 
While not exactly what you want, when creating loop libraries I often need to split on 8th or 16th notes with lots of clips. If you just want to split one clip this isn't all that efficient, but when you need to split over multiple tracks, it's really fast.
 
Basically, set the snap value to where you want to split (e.g., 16th notes), right-click in the Clips pane, and add MBT to pool. Now you can add transient markers to a clip at the pool interval (e.g., 16th notes). Then use the AS "split on beats" option. You can hide the pool if you want, but it's always there when you need it.
 
Remember to set the clip threshold to 100% so only the pool transients are available, and note that you can set a variable fade time for the splits. That to me is the real time-saver...splits with no clicks.
 
The other great thing about this technique is you can slow down the tempo and the clips will stay anchored to the time line. It's almost like being able to create REX files out of clips within SONAR. 
2015/03/04 23:55:14
mettelus
http://blog.cakewalk.com/category/music-production-tips/edm-music-production/
(Posted 27FEB2015)
 
I actually re-read the OP and first mention of EDM also referenced "Pop-Music"... so apparently we neglected his desire to talk about pop music....
 
 
all better now?
2015/03/05 00:01:41
Splat
Ah yes. You know that song cost nothing to make because they owned all their own instruments (they bought them in a shop for nothing) and they all gave away their time for free. Money was never an issue so it cost nothing because all they needed was a free copy of women's weekly.

And then one day a beanstalk grew high and higher..
2015/03/05 00:10:35
Anderton
Drone7
Anderton
Still waiting for those dollar figures on what it costs to create a professional quality ROMpler library. You claimed it's something you KNOW.


I do know!
No dollar figures needed, simply because as you know dollars are not needed! All that's needed is Kontakt 5, plus one month of time, plus the instruments, no cost involved because I have access to all the instruments.

 
You sampling for a month creates a ROMpler's core library? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you don't know the difference between a "core library" and "instruments." I'll also give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you have access to orchestral strings, vintage B3s, grand pianos, excellent players to create the samples, etc. and can do all the needed sampling, editing, formatting, mapping, and instrument creation in a month. As you assign no value to one month of your time, feel free to create a new and wonderful core library for Dimension Pro, and give it to Cakewalk for free.
 
You've been found-out man, wear it and move on. As to your other replies to my last post, none of it made sense, you seem to be trying to convince yourself.

 
I am not writing these posts for you; you are disingenuous, evasive, make claims you can't back up, refuse to answer questions, and avoid dialog by the constant use of rhetorical questions, which by definition are said without the expectation of an answer or furthering a dialog. (Look it up: "The rhetorical question is usually defined as any question asked for a purpose other than to obtain the information the question asks. For example, 'Why are you so stupid?' is likely to be a statement regarding one's opinion of the person addressed rather than a genuine request to know.")
 
I am writing these responses for people who are curious about how the real world works, how prices are determined, the size of the market, the tradeoffs of accommodating specialized versus more general needs, and the value of something like a core sample library. It also gives me an opportunity to offer advice to people who really DO have an interest in production solutions for EDM, like the technique I mentioned of creating a pool (with one right click and a context menu selection) that you could apply to any clip for splitting at rhythmic intervals, with variable fade times.
 
I already understand you are not interested in dialog, answering questions, or solving problems. I get that. I seems the solution to your problem is to go buy a program that has the features you need and make music with it, rather than complaining that SONAR isn't the program you want to buy. 
2015/03/05 00:49:28
tlw
I think this sad little troll has been tolerated somewhat longer than it deserves.

Though it is kind of interesting that the forum software has trouble with "suspicious" but doesn't pick up on some of the choice terminology Drone7 has been treating us to an hour or so ago.

Now, Droney, pay attention and I'll let you into a secret. If you could actually, y'know, get your head around programing a synthesiser then you wouldn't need all those samples and loops, and whatever you programmed would come out at whatever audio quality you wanted. Same applies if you learned to use chains of effects processors. What's more, Sonar comes with shedloads of stuff for doing exactly that.

The people who can do that stuff, who create the sounds you want to use, are generally known as "musicians" by the way.

Obviously you aren't a "musician" because if you were you wouldn't be whinging away you'd be using the tools in Sonar or some other DAW of your choice to create music instead. And you'd be acquiring knowledge that one day you might pass on to others and appreciate the advice and knowledge others pass on to you.

Then you might just get a little respect. Note I said "might".
2015/03/05 00:52:05
mudgel
How many steps across the Code of Conduct lines will it take before this thread is locked? These types of threads seem to be becoming more frequent.
 
2015/03/05 01:06:51
robert_e_bone
I left it open until now, because in between all the flames were some posts that managed to add to the discussion.
 
This thread is about to get locked.
 
Bob Bone
 
2015/03/05 10:19:23
Anderton
robert_e_bone
I left it open until now, because in between all the flames were some posts that managed to add to the discussion.
 
This thread is about to get locked.
 
Bob Bone

 
Just don't delete it before I've had a chance to transfer the tip about splitting at rhythmic intervals with variable fades to the tip of the week or someplace else. I think it's useful info, I'd hate to see it get lost among the rantings from "Drone7."
 
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