Beepster
Considering the majority of the promo and tutorial material released is intro'd by electronic type music and the subject material is a gain mostly dancy type stuff I highly doubt they have an aversion to the genre. If anything on this side of the spectrum, as I was still learning, I wondered whether they cared about live musicians like me due to that stuff.
 
Now that I use it regularly I realize that it is extremely powerful for what I do AND now that I am literally in the process of studying up on all the samplers and synths included in the program that the electronic/sampling possibilities are endless as well.
 
Seriously I cannot even imagine being stuck trying to create synth/loopbased music in Sonar with all the things included.
 
Sounds like someone is blaming their "instrument".

What are you on about, man? I don't use loops!! Is EDM "loop-music" in your mind, is it? Geeezz! What a misnomer that is! Get your facts straight before making cheap accusations. Kids use loops, people without programming skills use loops, producers looking to take shortcuts use loops, the wannabies use loops, but me? I MAKE MUSIC, which happens to be in the EDM genre. And while I'm here, there is nothing wrong with audio fidelity and 'quality', you should know that already, unless "lo-fi" is your thing. Quality is self-evident, but only for those who implement it. And when did I mention that I want Sonar to be EDM centric as you suggested? Don't twist my words or misrepresent me man! The loops in the "brainchild" update happen to be based-on R&B if you will read the preamble properly, unless you think a guitar-amp sim and more algos for the REmatrix verb qualify as significant tools for EDM. There's no way this update even remotely resembles anything useful for EDM, which was my point in the OP!

What Drone7 are you looking for in Sonar that would help you do EDM easier?
 
BTW its not Brainchild but Braintree. Its the name of a town in Mass..

Did you read my post about what's coming up next month and the EDM-oriented processors included with Platinum? I do a lot of EDM, and the results of that will continue to be contributed to future releases. 
 
I would also dispute that loops aren't used by serious musicians...I know some EDM artists who learned instruments so they could make their own loops. One of my most successful loop libraries, "AdrenaLinn Guitars," had loops of the kind of guitar playing I played live with Air Liquide and Rei$$dorf Force. That way when I couldn't make the trans-Atlantic commute for a gig, they could pop my loops into an MPC and have a "virtual Craig" playing guitar.

John
What Drone7 are you looking for in Sonar that would help you do EDM easier?

 
I would vote for more MIDI plug-ins that could massage data in interesting ways...
 

massage data...  that sounds robotically romantic  ;-D

I like it when people post links to their music in their sigs, etc.  Gives a little bit more credibility when the bashing starts flying around.

 This post illustrates the challenge of being a graet all-around product. The staff view complainers often claim Sonar is too focused on EDM. Every successful creator of just about any genre relies on more than the instant gratification features of any DAW. Sonar is setup well to create EDM. It's not as well suited for certain aspects of EDM production as Ableton and Fl, but it's not like they are giving you a bassoon and a timpani and telling you to construct drum and bass either. EDM, like any genre, still takes work to create something beyond cookie cutter, template based crap. Presets can be useful, but get boring when countless people use the same patch for very similar songs. Cakewalk's synths can be used with any genre (including death metal polka and its lesser known cousin Gangsta Packpack Zydeco) , particularly if the person can go beyond presets. Z3ta has been used on commercial EDM recordings. The guy who makes Syntorial has done tutorials showing how to recreate well known EDM songs using Z3ta.
 
As for loops, they can be useful, but many serious producers who do use loops often find/create their own from sources that were not necessarily made specifically for EDM.  Logic comes with a fantastic set of loops, yet they mostly just sit on the computer at our studio except for just playing around with ideas.
 
The things that make a great EDM tune are going to have lots of overlap with other genres. It starts with a great performance. Sonar can't do that for you. Next comes a great mix. Sonar can do that for any genre. I can mix any genre with Cakewalk stock plugins. Yes, I use third party too, but more and more of my mix is pure cakewalk. Even when it comes to virtual instruments, Sonar is capable. I was just dinking around making a trap beat in the studio using nothing but cakewalk products and a few samples for things like the commonly used chants (the 'hey' used in songs like Katie Perry's "Dark Horse" for example) and a rapper asked if he could use it.  I admit the same thing would have been easier in FL, but there are so many more things I would not use FL for.  For me, regardless of genre the bulk of my efforts are going to be in the mix phase so that trumps included synths and loops.

Anderton

John
What Drone7 are you looking for in Sonar that would help you do EDM easier?

 
I would vote for more MIDI plug-ins that could massage data in interesting ways...
 

That sounds like it could be fun. Also one neat thing about using a DAW like Sonar is the notion of just playing around with it in creative ways. I see some of this sort of unspoken usage in some of the postings here. Sonar is so nondestructive it lends itself to experimentation.  
 
 

Drone7

What are you on about, man? I don't use loops!! Is EDM "loop-music" in your mind, is it? Geeezz! What a misnomer that is! Get your facts straight before making cheap accusations. Kids use loops, people without programming skills use loops, producers looking to take shortcuts use loops, the wannabies use loops, but me? I MAKE MUSIC, which happens to be part of the EDM genre. And while I'm here, there is nothing wrong with audio fidelity and 'quality' because quality is self-evident, but only for those who implement it. And when did I mention that a want Sonar to be EDM centric as you suggested? Don't twist my words or misrepresent me man! The loops in the "brainchild" update happen to be based-on R&B if you will read the preamble properly, unless you think a guitar-amp sim and more algos for the REmatrix verb qualify as significant tools for EDM LOL. There's no way this update even remotely resembles anything useful for EDM, which was my point in the OP!

I might take this post seriously if the first time I encountered you here on the forum didn't involve you going apedoodles and attacking other forum members about the lack of quality LOOPS included with the program.
 
...and since you have edited the post I am quoting as I was typing my reply I will leave the rest of my "opinions" about your "opinions" out.
 
If you need "more" out of Sonar then do what the rest of us do to supplement the main program. Buy the tools you need elsewhere and use them within Sonar. Things like Kontakt cost as much as Cakewalk's flagship product for a reason.
 
I will go back to ignoring you now.

Oh I see... you did include that reply, just on another post. What I am on about is I think you are extraordinarily rude and don't seem to understand what is actually out there in terms of DAW packages. I dare you to find a more thorough and well rounded DAW package as Sonar. It simply will not happen.

Anderton
Did you read my post about what's coming up next month and the EDM-oriented processors included with Platinum? I do a lot of EDM, and the results of that will continue to be contributed to future releases. 
 
I would also dispute that loops aren't used by serious musicians...I know some EDM artists who learned instruments so they could make their own loops. One of my most successful loop libraries, "AdrenaLinn Guitars," had loops of the kind of guitar playing I played live with Air Liquide and Rei$$dorf Force. That way when I couldn't make the trans-Atlantic commute for a gig, they could pop my loops into an MPC and have a "virtual Craig" playing guitar.

Totally legit in the 'context' you just mentioned, I myself have no qualms with that. But, my own personal methodology is 'handrolled' beats done specifically for each occasion. To elaborate on my earlier criticisms of loops, many idiots have resorted to them and taken advantage of them to compensate for their lack of individual programming skills, and in the process given EDM a cheap aura. Some guys make songs entirely consisting of loops, or that are loop-based, and i'm simply saying you won't hear that in my tracks.