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2015/03/04 20:57:59
Splat
Leadfoot
If Sonar doesn't meet your needs, don't buy it.


Yup I recommend pro tools,it's a good product. Ableton may suit you well as well. DAW's are DAW's chose whatever you like. Also get Reaktor and a Maschine. Maybe Giest. If you have enough money get Komplete. Good luck.
2015/03/04 20:59:49
Drone7
Splat
He's still not acknowledging you can get plugins and samples are all over the place for free.



 
Nah, can't be, according to Mr Anderton these would cost a large sum of money to develop, so apparently these guys providing the free plugins are either damn rich and bored, or as i clearly stated, these plugins do not cost anywhere near as much money to develop as some would have us believe. Free? Who do you think you're kidding LOL
 
 
And for the record, i do respect Mr Anderton's status in the music industry and his accomplishments, but that doesn't mean i have to be a doormat in these forums and watch him attempt to usurp and contradict nearly everything i say.
2015/03/04 21:05:05
Splat
Well you seem to know everything then...
As a software developer myself I suggest though you are exaggerating things just a tad and thinking all software development is the same. It isn't. And yes there are MANY motivations..
2015/03/04 21:13:12
Spencer
The absolute last thing sonar needs for electronic music is more instruments and audio content. What it needs is duplicate, an automation envelope system that isn't geriatric, and to be able to record soft synths in real-time. All three of these are in the feedback forum right now, I welcome you to give the posts 5 stars.
 
"world-class" producers don't use any synths that are included in any daw, they use Massive, Nexus, Alchemy, SynthMaster, FM8 and Sylenth. Quite a few of them use Z3ta+ however (it was recently recommended by none other than synthesis god BT in an interview). I don't think there is anything you can do in psyn or pentagon that you can't in z3ta+, so why bother to update these dinosaurs? There's also Rapture, anyway. As for Dim Pro, it's a rompler for old school sounds. Some people prefer making good 90s or 80s music than that ear-raping millennial ****, believe it or not. You need a better rompler: get Nexus. Which doesn't come included with any other daw, again.
 
If you need a better arp, get a synth with a better arp, or get Cthulhu or Kirnu Cream. There's this thing called VST support for a reason in Sonar.
 
Jesus H Christ, man.
 
If anything, I'd say dolts like you are the reason Cakewalk don't spend more time catering to the desires of the electronic music crowd. The guitar grandpas at least don't constantly talk out of their ass and **** and moan incessantly for no valid reason whatsoever.
2015/03/04 21:16:01
Splat
Drone7
And for the record, i do respect Mr Anderton's status in the music industry and his accomplishments, but that doesn't mean i have to be a doormat in these forums and watch him attempt to usurp and contradict nearly everything i say.


I wouldn't worry about it. Nobody really cares enough about it, we are all to busy writing folk songs and polishing our zimmer frames. At least you are the genius we wouldn't know what we are talking about young man.

BTW

What's a synth? ;)
2015/03/04 21:22:20
Splat
Spencer
The guitar grandpas at least don't constantly talk out of their ass and **** and moan incessantly for no valid reason whatsoever.


Umm.

No never mind :)
Edit - sorry missed 'constantly'... Count me in :)
Enjoyed the post.
2015/03/04 21:25:22
Spencer
No hard feelings
2015/03/04 21:27:59
Splat
Reminds me. I haven't turned on my Maschine or used Massive/Reaktor/Absynth for quite a while. I feel a tune coming on :)

Or I could just pick up the guitar...
Did a dubstep track last Dec.
2015/03/04 21:39:06
Chandler
I produce many different types of music and although Sonar could be improved  as far as EDM goes, I don't understand a lot of the complaints.  Basic EDM sounds can be made in rapture and Z3ta. Of course they may not be exactly what you want, but it's impossible to  please everyone, so that's why 3rd party plug ins exsist. The 2 older Sonar synths are outdated and I don't think there is anyone currently at Cakewalk to can easily update them. Even if they could, why? There are better options available now. Z3ta+2 is extremely powerful, so if cakewalk wants to throw a bone to EDM producers they would be better off adding EDM presets to Z3ta than rebuilding old synths. 
 
for I do have a suggestion for the bakers when it comes to drums though. License "poise". Poise is a MPC style sampler that lets you trigger and chop samples. It has 16 pads available and each pad lets you layer 4 sounds(maybe more). It also allows velocity layering and round robin. On top of that it has additional features such as filters, velocity randomization, pitch randomization and pad linking. http://www.onesmallclue.com/poise.php.  It comes with some electronic samples, but of course Mr. Anderton could add more. On top of that for people who don't like EDM, it could be used for percussion. Cakewalk could sample shakers, tambourines, marktrees, etc and make it valuable to people who only use traditional instruments too. another idea would be to sample metal hits, door slams, glass breaks, etc and then process them to create a drum kits like Heavyocity Damage. I already have this plug in, so it's not that great for me if it's added to Sonar, but for others I think it would be nice. Alsoit is a tool that can be used in any genre. since the plugin itself is cheap I'm guessing the licensing fee will be quite reasonable, but who knows.
2015/03/04 21:55:35
Splat
Chandler
On top of that for people who don't like EDM, it could be used for percussion. Cakewalk could sample shakers, tambourines, marktrees, etc and make it valuable to people who only use traditional instruments too. another idea would be to sample metal hits, door slams, glass breaks, etc and then process them to create a drum kits like Heavyocity Damage. I already have this plug in, so it's not that great for me if it's added to Sonar, but for others I think it would be nice. Alsoit is a tool that can be used in any genre. since the plugin itself is cheap I'm guessing the licensing fee will be quite reasonable, but who knows.



NO. It can't be true... A plugin that caters for more than one genre of music? Impossible!!! 
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