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2015/02/25 13:23:25
brunovaltho
Hi guys!
I have wrist, hand, muscle pains...
I'm looking for a solution using the mouse as less as possible.
Is it possible to control sonar X3 or Platinium without a mouse? How? With Roland VS 700?
Thanks a lot! :)
2015/02/25 15:17:15
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Hi
You can do a lot with a control surface, but I'm afraid you cannot go completely without a mouse, especially when it comes to editing ...
 
yet, with the VS-700 (which must be the best integrated available surface) i think you could do without the mouse for long periods ...
 
... recording/tracking: with good templates in place, virtually mouse free ... 90-95% of all actions @ vs-700 is the estimate for myself (what remains for mouse are routing issues, direct monitoring headphone mixes, and other minor things) - i could potentially push it a bit higher w/ key bindings and other tricks (depends a bit if you just record your own band where you could optimize to perfection or if you do client work requiring different workflows)
 
... cleaning/editing tracks: 0% for me as I always forget how to do @vs-700 because mouse is so convenient, i reckon you could do some percentage, but no chance for comping or melodyne work ... so the solution would be to keep recording until you/your client totally nails the take ;-)
 
... mixing: virtually mouse free, close to 100% for me - if you learn all shortcuts to add/mute/delete plug-ins, have a good custom ACT mapping, select/nudge clips from the v-700 ...
 
OK, plus a keyboard and knowing keyboard shortcuts to fill in on a few new features that vs-700 never adopted/doesn't have enough buttons for (changing screen sets, ...)
 
i hope that info helps ...
 
PS: when trying to optimize your workflow, keep reading this forum and asking the guys ... this is a tremendous resource for ideas and how-to's
2015/02/25 17:10:14
OldTimerNewComer
...Pardon me for butting in, but There Is A Way you might control your DAW without a Mouse...
Funny, but I was about to post a request for a way to upload a link to exactly what you describe.
 
If You could Help me with that (lengthy info, plz. p.m. me for the skinny) and pass this offer on to mister
Anderton I would appreciate it (Craig I welcome your p.m. also).
 
    I have not posted a lot but have LURKED around this joint since Sonar 2XL, and after seeing how
helpful E1 is, I have always wanted to contribute to the community...
 
Perhaps this will be MY opportunity, and my efforts will help a few folks like you, Aixmusajo.
 
Peace.
Mel
2015/02/26 01:28:10
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
OldTimerNewComer
...Pardon me for butting in, but There Is A Way you might control your DAW without a Mouse...


now you made me curious, yet you don't even hint how to do it ...
pls let us in ... unless of course it's something commercial & top secret you develop and can't share it upfront ;-)
2015/02/26 08:52:12
jimkleban
Sonar is very robust with TOUCH enabled for a touch screen.
 
Jim
 
2015/02/26 09:42:42
azslow3
aixmusajo
I have wrist, hand, muscle pains...
I'm looking for a solution using the mouse as less as possible.

Excuse me in case I am thinking in wrong direction, but have you tried usual mouse replacement?
I mean track ball, touchpad or stick. They all required finger movements only and can be used as fast as a mouse after some training. Good consoles are relatively big (V-700 width is 28 inches).
2015/02/26 12:20:32
brunovaltho
OldTimerNewComer
...Pardon me for butting in, but There Is A Way you might control your DAW without a Mouse...
Funny, but I was about to post a request for a way to upload a link to exactly what you describe.
 
If You could Help me with that (lengthy info, plz. p.m. me for the skinny) and pass this offer on to mister
Anderton I would appreciate it (Craig I welcome your p.m. also).
 
    I have not posted a lot but have LURKED around this joint since Sonar 2XL, and after seeing how
helpful E1 is, I have always wanted to contribute to the community...
 
Perhaps this will be MY opportunity, and my efforts will help a few folks like you, Aixmusajo.
 
Peace.
Mel


Hi OldTimerNewComer!
Very interesting! Can you explain more simply what I should do?
Thanks!
2015/02/26 12:21:48
brunovaltho
FreeFlyBertl
Hi
You can do a lot with a control surface, but I'm afraid you cannot go completely without a mouse, especially when it comes to editing ...
 
yet, with the VS-700 (which must be the best integrated available surface) i think you could do without the mouse for long periods ...
 
... recording/tracking: with good templates in place, virtually mouse free ... 90-95% of all actions @ vs-700 is the estimate for myself (what remains for mouse are routing issues, direct monitoring headphone mixes, and other minor things) - i could potentially push it a bit higher w/ key bindings and other tricks (depends a bit if you just record your own band where you could optimize to perfection or if you do client work requiring different workflows)
 
... cleaning/editing tracks: 0% for me as I always forget how to do @vs-700 because mouse is so convenient, i reckon you could do some percentage, but no chance for comping or melodyne work ... so the solution would be to keep recording until you/your client totally nails the take ;-)
 
... mixing: virtually mouse free, close to 100% for me - if you learn all shortcuts to add/mute/delete plug-ins, have a good custom ACT mapping, select/nudge clips from the v-700 ...
 
OK, plus a keyboard and knowing keyboard shortcuts to fill in on a few new features that vs-700 never adopted/doesn't have enough buttons for (changing screen sets, ...)
 
i hope that info helps ...
 
PS: when trying to optimize your workflow, keep reading this forum and asking the guys ... this is a tremendous resource for ideas and how-to's




Thanks a lot FreeFlyBertl for taking the time to give me such a detailed answer! Very usefull thanks!
2015/02/26 12:22:55
brunovaltho
jkleban
Sonar is very robust with TOUCH enabled for a touch screen.
 
Jim
 


 Hi Jim!
What do you exactly manage to do with touchscreen?
Thnaks!
2015/02/26 13:15:30
John
You should be able to do most everything via touch. 
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