• SONAR
  • Poorly Chosen Rant and Clarification and apology. (p.5)
2015/02/27 19:12:04
Sir Les
robert_e_bone
Beepster
You go well above and beyond, Bob. It does not go unnoticed... at least not on this side of this particular screen.
 
Cheers.


Thanks for the kind words, but Nah - we are FAMILY, dysfunctional, but a FAMILY none the less.  Near as I can tell, folks are supposed to help each other out, and when that happens, for that brief moment, the world becomes a 'better' place, and not such a 'bitter' place.  Helping folks reminds me of my dad, who passed away about 17 years ago - his principles still guide and teach me.
 
These forums are a SUPERB source of help, and strength, for me, and for others.
 
Plus, I have been helped SOOOO many times by folks here in the forum that I look forward to being able to help out when I can.  The real thanks goes to long-time folks from way back, who themselves gave so freely to the forum, such as the irreplacable and much missed Billy Arnell.




Many thanks to you Bob, for helping me, and coming back to try again, and again, and Alex..and all the others!...
 
I hope....forgiveness is universally known as a good thing!...yah i know religion is not allowed here...sshhh...but it is the best way, when we try it out, as the master says...and it works...Just makes it more a truth I cling to...and have to say...Thanks to him...in oh so many ways....You can feel it here being practiced...or eluded to, in same likeness...the spirit flows still through us....
 
Even if some say I do not believe in X...X sure knew the way to solving problems starts by listening, then trying to help, and be good to all...even those who hate us...be good and bless them by not letting bad even show up in us...for we are not them...be good always, no matter....With that spirit working in doing good, being good, and trying to help....you become a helper of many, and the spirit works still...to better the world perhaps not yet...but surely here in this space...things are being accomplished as proof it has merit what the master did say and did do!
 
Cheers!
2015/02/27 19:34:06
Semi_Perfect
I think someone should make a troll song about how great Sonar is
2015/02/27 19:42:29
Sir Les
when i troll I get fish...never thought of a troll song...perhaps might make Lord of the Rings  movie remake list in 2042, with Abrams kids?...who knows?
...wink.
2015/02/27 20:09:41
Anderton
Semi_Perfect
I think someone should make a troll song about how great Sonar is



I've always said I do take requests...here you go.
 
Happy Troll Song
 
Troll, troll, troll SONAR
Music data streams
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily
It's the DAW of dreams
 
Angry Troll Song
 
Troll, troll, troll SONAR
Frustration extreme
And no version for the Mac!
Windows makes me scream
 
Thankyou verreh much! I'll be here all week. Don't forget the happy hour special, gin & tonics at half price!
2015/02/27 20:12:12
Leadfoot
Very nice, Craig...
2015/02/27 20:17:59
ArcRex
Your troll song should be have a 'Jaws' like verse and cresendo into a 'Psycho' shower like Chorus. 
2015/02/27 20:21:07
Anderton
Leadfoot
Very nice, Craig...



You guys just want the half-price gin and tonics. But I do think it's worth pointing out there IS a tip jar on the piano.
 
Now can we get back to the problem at hand? Although I'm starting to think this thread would provide great source material for a research paper titled "Study of the Hazards Involved in Attempting to Communicate via a Text-Only Medium."
 
2015/02/27 20:23:05
Greg Lester
Hi everyone, again I apologize for the ambiguity I created with the initial post.
 
I didn't get to return as fast as I wanted and typing on my cell phone does not work for me.  I'm a disabled veteran and when I go to the VA hospital I have to travel about 1.5 hours one way. I make it an all day thing and I got back and saw Bob Bone's message to me.
 
My machine is an HP desktop with 8gb RAM, 1 tb internal hard drive and a 2 tb external hard drive. Earlier this morning before I left I ordered 8 more gig of RAM. I'm in Windows 8.1. I keep up with the updates and speaking of I need to do the brain tree update.
 
I do appreciate everyone's feedback and input that can do it in a constructive and respectful way. So, I'm willing to get started with the two recent errors one was when I closed the project and the other is loosing sound(s) on certain tracks and instruments.
 
I have two questions. 1) has anyone experienced SONAR changing driver modes on it's own? I used ASIO in X3e and it changes itself to MME(32bit). I just checked it by opening a project and it stayed ASIO. 2) Has anyone experienced the freeze feature going very slow for each midi track that is frozen?
 
I enjoy mixing and I enjoy making music when it comes to me. I will be checking and interacting more. Not to worry, I don't like drama and there won't be drama. I look forward to this
 
Greg 
2015/02/27 20:38:25
Anderton
JohnBonesDoe
1) has anyone experienced SONAR changing driver modes on it's own? I used ASIO in X3e and it changes itself to MME(32bit). I just checked it by opening a project and it stayed ASIO.

 
Yes, SONAR will do that if it can't find the ASIO interface for some reason. This could be due to several possible issues, like plugging a USB ASIO interface into a different USB port than was used for installation, bad USB cable, not having an updated driver, something else grabbing the ASIO driver so it's not available to SONAR, USB hub suspending power and going into a "sleep" mode, etc.
 
For a fix, I'd recommended checking again for updated audio interface drivers, making sure the interface is plugged into the same port in which it is installed, having the interface turned on before you open SONAR (unless that's the problem, in which case turn it on after opening SONAR) and checking whether it's feeding a USB SuperSpeed (3.0) port or USB 2.0 port. Some USB 2.0 devices work well with USB 3.0, some don't. Also, some USB 2.0 devices I've had that were problematic worked perfectly with 3.0, although the manufacturer told me their chip set was incompatible with 3.0. Argh. Also some USB devices need to be turned on before the computer is booted, with others it's after the computer is booted.
 
Sorry to be so vague, but that's a rundown of some of the issues I've encountered with USB over the years. Oh, and never use a hub or powered hub with an audio interface. Use a port on the motherboard itself.
 
2) Has anyone experienced the freeze feature going very slow for each midi track that is frozen?

 
Not really, but not sure how you define "slow." One of the most interesting issues of all time was when someone found that freezing tracks with Kontakt took literally hours. He was super-frustrated. It turned out the problem was - get this - having a CD (or maybe it was a DVD) in the optical drive. As soon as he removed that, no more problems.
 
Looping back to the initial post/response, so many times the "problems" people have with SONAR relate to Windows or some other element, but the first thing they do is assume SONAR is the problem. That can take the form of rants, which doesn't help, but a lot of times these people assume the first thing they should do is re-install SONAR, which doesn't help either.
 
The good news is once you get a system tweaked, it will usually stay tweaked and not give you any issues. I'm now into my first month of Platinum without a crash or freeze, which seems impossible to me but believe me, I'm not complaining. I can only assume I'm not being hard enough on it. Give me time.
 
2015/02/27 20:43:26
Greg Lester
Anderton
JohnBonesDoe
1) has anyone experienced SONAR changing driver modes on it's own? I used ASIO in X3e and it changes itself to MME(32bit). I just checked it by opening a project and it stayed ASIO.

 
Yes, SONAR will do that if it can't find the ASIO interface for some reason. This could be due to several possible issues, like plugging a USB ASIO interface into a different USB port than was used for installation, bad USB cable, not having an updated driver, something else grabbing the ASIO driver so it's not available to SONAR, USB hub suspending power and going into a "sleep" mode, etc.
 
For a fix, I'd recommended checking again for updated audio interface drivers, making sure the interface is plugged into the same port in which it is installed, having the interface turned on before you open SONAR (unless that's the problem, in which case turn it on after opening SONAR) and checking whether it's feeding a USB SuperSpeed (3.0) port or USB 2.0 port. Some USB 2.0 devices work well with USB 3.0, some don't. Also, some USB 2.0 devices I've had that were problematic worked perfectly with 3.0, although the manufacturer told me their chip set was incompatible with 3.0. Argh. Also some USB devices need to be turned on before the computer is booted, with others it's after the computer is booted.
 
Sorry to be so vague, but that's a rundown of some of the issues I've encountered with USB over the years. Oh, and never use a hub or powered hub with an audio interface. Use a port on the motherboard itself.
 
2) Has anyone experienced the freeze feature going very slow for each midi track that is frozen?

 
Not really, but not sure how you define "slow." One of the most interesting issues of all time was when someone found that freezing tracks with Kontakt took literally hours. He was super-frustrated. It turned out the problem was - get this - having a CD (or maybe it was a DVD) in the optical drive. As soon as he removed that, no more problems.
 
Looping back to the initial post/response, so many times the "problems" people have with SONAR relate to Windows or some other element, but the first thing they do is assume SONAR is the problem. That can take the form of rants, which doesn't help, but a lot of times these people assume the first thing they should do is re-install SONAR, which doesn't help either.
 
The good news is once you get a system tweaked, it will usually stay tweaked and not give you any issues. I'm now into my first month of Platinum without a crash or freeze, which seems impossible to me but believe me, I'm not complaining. I can only assume I'm not being hard enough on it. Give me time.
 




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