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2018/04/09 19:04:25
jpetersen
Larry Jones
This is, in fact, Mark Zuckerberg's stated objective for Facebook.

There's an interview with Zuck from back when facebook was still fresh.
 
Mark was asked by a reporter why total strangers give him all there personal and private details.
 
His first response was "I don't know".
Then after a thought, he said: "Because they're dumb."
2018/04/09 19:14:23
mettelus
Larry Jones
[...]And even if their intentions are not sinister (I assume they're not) they will gather a trove of good data about their users, and that data will become a target for hackers, advertisers and others (use your imagination). 




That pretty much sums it up in a nutshell. Often those storing data do so "because they can," not because of malicious intent; however, someone with malicious intent would first go to those who regularly collect that data to find what they want. The least secure/most advantageous first. There are very stiff regulations and penalties for health and financial information, so those are the most secure, but beyond that the areas get fuzzy.
 
Google went into China and even assisted in censorship there until they realized they had been hacked; only then did they leave. There is also a difference between being given information (such as much of Facebook), and data mining (as Google tends to regularly).
2018/04/09 19:24:28
slyman
I really don't get what the hype is all about with this "new" version and why many SPLAT users are installing it. 
It's the same piece of software.....! 
Does anyone think that by installing it they will get all future versions for free?
Of course, when they come up with new updates, features or new GUI, there will be a price tag and some other twists. No company can afford developing a software that doesn't bring back revenues one way or another. They know what they're doing.  
 
Bandlab just took over and it will take some time before they can offer something new, I get that. 
I became a loyal Cakewalk customer over the years. Didn't happen in a few weeks.    
So, up to them to come up with an improved software, with new features and let's see what direction the company is taking.
THEN, I'll decide if I become a Bandlab cu$$$tomer. Doesn't work the other way around.  Not for me anyways. 
 
In the meantime, back to making musing with SONAR.......
 
 
 
2018/04/09 19:33:29
scook
slyman
 
Does anyone think that by installing it they will get all future versions for free?


That appears to be the plan http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3745236
also see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3746108
 
 
2018/04/09 19:46:42
slyman
scook
slyman
 
Does anyone think that by installing it they will get all future versions for free?


That appears to be the plan http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3745236
also see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3746108
 
 


Then it will always be, whether you install it now or later.... 
And they'll get their revenues somehow, you can bet on that...
2018/04/09 19:54:15
scook
Yes, BandLab is a business. Just wanted to clear up any misunderstand in msg #65.
2018/04/09 21:08:55
astaub
New social online media like BandLab live first of expectation in the future.
 
After that, they live on the high number of members they can sell to investors and the stock markets as a potential database and experiment and source of new online products.
 
As you can see, Meng does not have to sell the DAW, but he needs as many online registrations as possible.
 
Investors are attracted to many registrations, the members of a good product. So Meng needs good products, which means a constantly visible development. Meng can not offer anything that looks the same in a year as it does today.
 
However, this is only my opinion.
2018/04/09 21:16:07
sharke
slyman
scook
slyman
 
Does anyone think that by installing it they will get all future versions for free?


That appears to be the plan http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3745236
also see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3746108
 
 


Then it will always be, whether you install it now or later.... 
And they'll get their revenues somehow, you can bet on that...


Of course they will have a revenue stream. It just won't necessarily be from sales of a DAW. The free DAW is a loss leader to get people into the BandLab ecosphere, whereupon they will be marketed other goods and services. If they're successful then this revenue stream will pay for the ongoing development of the DAW.

Free software is a tried and tested sales strategy. You see it all the time with free phone apps that have things like in-app purchases and upgrades. I'm currently learning French with a free app, DuoLingo, which really is an excellent piece of kit that's obviously had a lot of work put into it (especially given how many languages it teaches). In between lessons I'm shown an ad. That's one revenue stream for them. If I want an enhanced DuoLingo experience, including no ads and offline lesson saving, I pay something like $45/year. There are also in-app purchases, things like gems which are used in the learning games. These are more revenue streams. BandLab will be treating Cakewalk among similar lines.
2018/04/09 21:22:53
bdickens
jimfogle

 
Sometime before December, 2017 you purchased a software program called Sonar from a company called Cakewalk.  Cakewalk required you to install a file manager application called Command Center to manage installation of your Cakewalk software products by requiring online authentication.  Gibson paid for the computer servers that ran the Cakewalk authentication process and the forum.
 



Not Entirely accurate. I have SPLAT on two computers, neither of which has ever been within a mile of Cakewalk Command Center. One of them has never been connected to the internet.
2018/04/09 21:52:37
jude77
bitflipper
BenMMusTech
Social media is a problem...but only if you don't understand all the mechanisms. 



And therein lies the problem: we don't understand all the mechanisms.
 
I like to think I'm a tech-savvy guy. I build databases for a living, and design data-mining applications.



So, Bitfliipper, you're actually the one behind all this! 
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