Anderton

lawajava
4. Comments / observations by scook and others about certain pieces only being available this month are strong indications to me that reading the forum is time well spent. Already very confusing, but understanding that some pieces will not be accessible as installers later makes it seem very prudent as Craig suggests to back up.

Yes, except that based on Noel's comments, you don't NEED to back up...only if you're a freak about having backups, like me.

 
More so, it's about having how long it may take to download an update again cuz for some reason the computer traveled back in time.
 

Anderton

scook
Sometimes posts like this are not very clear http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3182007. 

Well to be fair to Andrew, he was responding to a question from someone who specified "As in if I am not currently a member I will not get those things after this month (or whenever those goodies are yanked)? Or to put it another way are the Braintree items NOT included in cumulative updates?" 
 
Like Andrew, I too thought the person was talking about cumulative updates for those who become members in the future. If that's the case, Andrew's answer was pretty specific.
 

This is true but I don't believe my understanding was enhanced by some of your initial replies in this thread. Noel has indicated that we need not create our own installers for added content. Cakewalk will continue to supply installers for the content and that settles the issue for me.

Paul P

gswitz
I get panicky when I want to install an update and I'm afraid I'll lose all my custom stuff. It is a worry. And there is so much, you might not notice something is gone until you've got someone over and you want to demo a sound or technique and now you find it missing.

And this is going to happen every month.
 

This type of heightened reaction to anticipation IS experienced about every 30 days by at least half of the population of humans on this world.
 
Not confining this observation to just women.
 
I am an equal-opportunity sexist.
 
 

Since my PC had Dim Pro, Rapture and Z3ta+2 installed prior to Platinum, where I want the libraries, I did not installed those with Platinum. How should I get those updates? At the moment Sound Center is downloading and I am reading as many of these February Platinum Braintree threads as I can.
 
Computer skills are not my strong points, so I am going to use the CCC and download from my products for backups. I did set a restore point this evening before starting out down (I am not trying to imply anything by that! LOL) this path.
Michael
 

z3ta+2 is not part of Platinum. Don't worry about DimPro and Rapture, the updates are to the installers not the plug-in. Extra content has not been added to those installers. The extra Rapture content for February is in the Anderton Collection. I doubt extra content will ever be added to DimPro or Rapture installers, but I could be wrong.

Location location location! So many of these issues come back to C3. I know I've been complaining endlessly about it, but if it was fixed many of these issues would just go away as it adds to the overall confusion right now.
 
At this point, I believe the issues that need to be fixed, from most to least important:

1. Allow per-product install locations.
2. Detect already installed products, whether they were manually installed in default or non-default locations. All this info is in the registry, why can't it pick it up?
3. Allow uninstalling of products. I used C3 to install D-Pro and Rapture, but wanted to uninstall them and install them manually somewhere not on my limited space C drive. To date, after asking multiple times in the forum, nobody can tell me how to uninstall Rapture and D-Pro. It can't be done from either C3 or Add/Remove Programs.
4. Show changes between updates.
5. Allow un-hiding of previously hidden products.
6. Allow the ability to select multiple products and have them all downloaded/installed in one go.

 
Other that that, I also find the update to be excellent, don't get me wrong.

SilkTone
Location location location! So many of these issues come back to C3. I know I've been complaining endlessly about it, but if it was fixed many of these issues would just go away as it adds to the overall confusion right now.
 
At this point, I believe the issues that need to be fixed, from most to least important:

1. Allow per-product install locations.
2. Detect already installed products, whether they were manually installed in default or non-default locations. All this info is in the registry, why can't it pick it up?
3. Allow uninstalling of products. I used C3 to install D-Pro and Rapture, but wanted to uninstall them and install them manually somewhere not on my limited space C drive. To date, after asking multiple times in the forum, nobody can tell me how to uninstall Rapture and D-Pro. It can't be done from either C3 or Add/Remove Programs.
4. Show changes between updates.
5. Allow un-hiding of previously hidden products.
6. Allow the ability to select multiple products and have them all downloaded/installed in one go.

 
Other that that, I also find the update to be excellent, don't get me wrong.

Agreed. These suggestions seem on point.

Anderton

ampfixer
Instead we're on a monthly release schedule now and that just encourages people to  collect floor sweepings if they don't have something meaningful to deliver.

You're forgetting the DSD update, VocalSync update, Mix Recall update, and 27 fixes. Would you rather not have them now? Do you really think that nothing "meaningful" happens at Cakewalk during a month's time that would be worth giving to members?
 
And I assume you haven't used Bark of Dog if you think it's a "special effect." Try it next time you need to separate kick from bass, or do narration. A very similar plug-in from a different company costs $150 - the price of an entire year's update for SONAR users. But they could charge that much because, well...try it next time you need to separate kick from bass, or do narration. Or bring out the kick from a drum part. Or give a Rickenbacker bass more "bottom" without adding mud.
 
Furthermore, I would hardly call 126 IR impulses, 436 MB of loops (which I spent many, many hours editing and tweaking for proper stretching in both WAV and REX formats), an amp optimized for acoustic guitars, and all the other goodies as "floor sweepings." If you actually knew something about loops, and compared them to other commercially available loops, I highly doubt you would call them "floor sweepings."
 
Anyway, you're going to get a year of loops because I do really good loops , and people use them. The loops I did for M-Audio, Wizoo, and Discrete Drums were some of their best-selling titles. Now members get the same level of quality for free. 
 
No one should expect a new release to consist only of items of interest to them. The reason for including a lot of stuff is so that everyone gets something useful. If Cakewalk keeps up its pace from this release for the next 12 months, even if you don't care about content at all you'll still get 36 features or updated features, and over 300 bug fixes. And you'll get them as soon as they're available (within a month's time frame).
 
 
 

Major over reaction on your part Craig. I didn't see this release was floor sweepings, I said it could lead that way. I don't think they should feel forced to put something out every month. I didn't think they would when I upgraded. That's what I meant. I stand by my comments on the Pro Channel plug in. I realize that as a primary content generator you have  a vested interest in this stuff.
 
The whole middle of your post is a fabrication so please lighten up and please don't put words in my mouth.
 
Poor form my friend.

We all get a bit annoyed with the complainers that are uninformed.
 
Sonar costs less than a dollar a day. All the rest of the stuff is FREE. FREE!
 
A real complaint is why CCC puts samples and presets where all the professional audio dudes advise to NOT put them.
Put this stuff on a separate disk, they say.    But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
 
Now that is a legitimate complaint.
 
Getting something for free you do not want.  That is not a complaint. That is a whine.
 
 
 
 

Yo CRAIG
 
To avoid insanity I suggest you limit your responses to 144 characters. 
 
Preferably structured as haiku pentameter.
 
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