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2015/02/28 20:08:18
scook
Anderton
 
Thanks Steve. Remember, you're dealing with a recovering ediholic from all those years of working at magazines. However -  I have stopped correcting grammar in casual conversations, so I'm improving. In fact, the doctors say I will soon be well enough not to pound my head into walls when I see "it's" used to indicative the possessive. 


I credit "Grammatik IV" with improving my second trip through college by at least one letter grade. That and word processing all assignments in WordPerfect include math and CS.
2015/02/28 20:17:41
Zo
features wise = yes
bug / stability / broken features = wait 
2015/02/28 20:38:57
scook
I would ask Zo if this is an assessment of Platinum v. X3 or some other version. I believe Zo does not use X3.
2015/02/28 22:12:16
whitejs
I would say you probably won't see much worth getting in Platinum.  
 
One of the most low-impact pay-for-the-upgrade deployments I've seen in any program, really.
 
I'm using it, but regretting that it doesn't add much of anything to what I was doing with X3e.
 
I guess software mfgs. need to make some revenue now and then, so that's understandable.
2015/02/28 22:38:41
gswitz
It's been keeping me busy. I've been having fun!
2015/02/28 23:26:58
mudgel
I'll say it's low impact. For me it was like opening x3e only to find that there was a new Command bar that was much more flexible and useful. Vocalsync, powerful in its simplicity. Everywhere a little tweak and a fix. It wasn't X3 of course but it was a stable as that and ran snappier.

For ages the cry has been more in der the hood fixes please, make it more stable, more this more that. Cakewalk listened and now someone says its a low impact release with not much to satisfy anyone.

Sure there's some loose ends with information and such and some more tweaks needed more so in the release area than the program but if this is a sign of what's to come over the next year then we're all in for one hell of a great program with Sonar 2015.
2015/02/28 23:41:08
Anderton
whitejs
I would say you probably won't see much worth getting in Platinum.  
 
One of the most low-impact pay-for-the-upgrade deployments I've seen in any program, really.
 
I'm using it, but regretting that it doesn't add much of anything to what I was doing with X3e.
 
I guess software mfgs. need to make some revenue now and then, so that's understandable.




Well, you have a good point. If you never need to create and export alternate mixes or remixes, have no interest in high-res audio, never have to match dialog to picture, are happy with existing amp sims, don’t have clients asking for DSD masters as well as PCM, don’t need to use a control bar that’s adaptable to laptops or desktops, don’t use MIDI so you don’t need MIDI time-stretching or pattern creation/copying, don’t use loops, are totally fine with only algorithmic reverb and don’t like the realism of convolution reverb, are satisfied with AudioSnap the way it was, don’t see a need for gapless instrument muting, never want to drag-and-drop audio that incorporates effects or envelopes, think VST3 channel context support is silly, don’t speak a language other than English, don’t want to be able to create an independent project copy while continuing to work on an existing version, aren’t affected by any of the bugs that have been fixed, have no interest in drum replacement (coming soon), don’t use a lot of sends or FX in console view so you can always see them onscreen all the time, don’t use the Vienna libraries or anything else that needs multiple MIDI input buses, don’t mind dropouts because you don’t have adaptive disk streaming, don’t want the changes folded in that are due in the next year, and if you need to do vocal alignment figure it makes more economic sense to spend twice the price of the Platinum update for a third-party plug-in, then X3e – which is pretty solid – could very well remain an ideal solution.
2015/03/01 03:21:22
GLG
whitejs
I would say you probably won't see much worth getting in Platinum.  
 
One of the most low-impact pay-for-the-upgrade deployments I've seen in any program, really.
 
I'm using it, but regretting that it doesn't add much of anything to what I was doing with X3e.
 
I guess software mfgs. need to make some revenue now and then, so that's understandable.
 
 

 
I think that's a little harsh. After a lot of checking, reading and playing around with Platinum, I think it was a good update. But it was always going to be the case that there would be various reactions depending on an individuals needs and wants, and will also be the case with the "monthly" updates. I think another 8-10 updates of the Braintree standard for 2015 will satisfy most people's requirements. And don't forget those bug fixes. Cakewalk are listening.
 
And for me, this statement by Cakewalk regarding the Braintree update is incredibly important - "With this update, there are even more fixes and enhancements —further evidence of Cakewalk’s goal to make SONAR the most stable DAW on the planet".   (My bold.) 
Yahoo. Go Cake. I believe that this will eventually win more sales and happy customers than any other aspect of the product. I think they are on the right track by fine tuning and stabilizing the core product, fixing bugs and adding function and workflow enhancements. Good long term planning. Well that's the good......
 
Now..........................lets tweak that bloody Command Center.
 
Greg
2015/03/01 07:20:38
whitejs
Sarcasm aside, Craig, although you've blessed those who may not read product issue details with fine information, having listed every possible notable improvement/change, it seems a bit defensive.  I would seriously ask, as I don't come here often, do you work for/with Cakewalk, or have vested interests in the company?
 
And I say that because there are so many places that advanced users such as you and me could have already found and reviewed the great features and developmental progress offered in Platinum OTHER than an immediate reply here that it just looks defensive and a bit "company guy".
 
I say this because I wanted, with my rightful opinion and privilege to express myself to another user, to convey what might be a simple, practical viewpoint to someone who was on the fence about the upgrade purchase.  I use Sonar daily, and have done so with the embodiment of Cakewalk's DAW products for over twenty years.  My posting was my basic feeling about this issue.  X3 was doing fine in so many ways that are entirely similar to the function of Platinum that I spoke such.  This is a user forum.
 
Now, if I take your example and list all the things that ARE THE SAME in form, function and application we'd lose about five feet of text space on this page, and it would indeed be even more of a contrived effort (although less sarcastic) than your effort to list all the possible (but not used collectively, as listed, buy anyone) changes.
 
Sonar kicks butt.  X3 kicks butt, but I've not clicked on it for a week.  Platinum rolls excellently, in many respects; it just didn't change a great deal for what I would guess are many users, and I want to put that out there.  No need for the cavalry -- especially the sarcasm troops, as this place has enough contention and smarty-pants responses to go around already.
 
2015/03/01 07:25:40
gustabo
mudgel
... but if this is a sign of what's to come over the next year then we're all in for one hell of a great program with Sonar 2015.

I think that we already have one hell of a great program with SPLat!


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