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2015/03/01 02:21:53
EverSoul
karhide
Do any third party VST effects or instruments you have installed show up and work correctly?



Actually, no.  
Options → Global → VST Plugins tab → Add (ie: C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VSTplugins) → Scan VST folders... 
 
...
 
Nothing happens.  
 
Ever.  :(
 
Some With-Sonar installed DXIs work.  
Cakewalk TTS. Grooveplayer. Cyclone. PSYNII.
 
Izotope Ozone works great.  That's the ONLY non-sonar thing I've gotten to work.
...but that's not a VST or instrument.
 
Kev999
Do you realise that you can have both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Sonar installed together side by side? If some plugins don't work in 64 they may work in 32.

 
I had both 64bit and 32bit on my previous system.  I felt like I was juggling and recording took longer.
The only reason I need 32bit at all is for Soundfonts.  I'd rather not go back to my old setup if I can get (or better yet, if anyone ever has gotten) soundfonts to work in a 64bit environment.
 
The alternative is me making due with the dumpier Microsoft Wavetable.
 
2015/03/01 02:32:11
karhide
So is the location you set up there where you can see the vst dll files?

What operating system are you using?
2015/03/01 02:46:50
EverSoul
Yes.  I can see the files.  I'm using Windows 8.1 - touchscreen laptop.
 
By the way, I never got VSTs to work on my other (Windows 7) setup either so its a possibility it might be user error / a disconnect somewhere.
 
So frustrating.  I even have a soundfont device in my instruments list...  but it still only has the same pool of GS instruments.
Why even have a "Soundfont Device" if its exactly the same as "General MIDI"?
 

 
2015/03/01 02:58:14
karhide
I've not used sonar 6 on anything other than XP but you could try running as administrator and then trying the scan?

Can you also upload an image of your vst settings?
2015/03/01 03:18:54
EverSoul
Hey, thanks for all the help.  :)
Thought of the administrator bit since the beginning.  That's all I've ran it as since I've had this PC.
 

 
This stupid thing keeps popping up every time I start Sonar 6.  It does nothing when I press ok and shows up every time.
 

 
Nothing happens when I press scan.  Is it supposed to?
The VST folders are empty again every time I start up Sonar 6.
 

 
Nothing is ever there.  Plug in Properties is greyed out unless I press Scan VST Plugins.  
Import, Add Plugin, Plugin Properties and Scan VST Plugins do NOTHING when pressed.
Options pulls up another box to do a scan, which does NOTHING.
 

 
Same here.
 

 
I've got two different VSTi's for Soundfonts in the folder.  Running as administrator and I know I have the path right.
 
Again, I've never gotten a VST to work on 3 different PCs through multiple installs and I've been using Sonar 6 since 2009.  I've followed what's in the tutorial and gotten nothing.
 
...am I missing a step to get these to work?
 
2015/03/01 03:58:22
mudgel
It seems like you're scanning 64 bit files with 32 bit Sonar. I can tell that because the Wave Profiler that starts with Sonar suggests it's 32 bit.
2015/03/01 04:07:05
mudgel
But I notice the plugin Manager is x64. Confusing. You could try select rescan failed plugins.
2015/03/01 04:09:41
karhide
Are the plugin versions you installed the 64bit versions?

Just for a test can you install the sonar 32 bit version?

What are the 64bit plugins you are using?
2015/03/01 04:26:56
mudgel
With those 2 windows that show both 32 bit and 64 bit dialogs I'm wondering if you aren't running Sonar 32 bit and using the VST Scanner from Sonar x64
2015/03/01 09:17:01
EverSoul
That 32bit Wave Profiler prompt started showing up when I chose the below driver mode.
 

 
I had to choose that mode or else I would have NO MIDI.
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I definitely don't have a 32bit Sonar because if I did, Livesynth Pro would be working like a charm.
 
I checked both Re-scan for failed plugins / Re-scan for existing plugins.  No different results.
TX16WX, Fantasize, sforzando, etc. are the 64bit plugins that I'm installing / have installed.
 
I did find an SFZ dll in my Cakewalk → VSTplugins folder.  But like anything else, it doesn't scan.
Again, it adds to the frustration that I have multiple Soundfont references in Sonar, but none of them work.
 

 
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