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2017/08/11 01:20:27
AudioMech
I'm putting together a parts list for a 1950X Threadripper build and just curious if Sonar (or other DAWs) would benefit from having some many cores? 16core/32 threads. I primarily design sounds and composer music for games. So at one time I have the Unreal 4 up, with either Sonar or Pro Tools, capturing gameplay footage, BaseHead and a slew of other programs up during the day.
 
Specifically though, if I'm just running just Sonar with a bunch of plug ins, convolution reverb, synths, etc (as I do compose orchestral mock ups using a lot of sample based instruments through Kontakt) would Sonar be limited to only use X amount of cores regardless of how many are on the chip or would it spread the workload across multiple cores? 
 
Thanks! 
2017/08/11 01:31:47
scook
2017/08/11 06:10:00
Sanderxpander
Sonar maxes out at 32 cores I believe. We (or at least I personally) found out about this because Cakewalk commented on a guy using dual 44-core Intel server CPUs and being upset that not all his cores were visible.
2017/08/11 19:03:39
Vastman
Great new article... https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/08/amd-threadripper-review-1950x-1920x/
 
I've shelved my planned upgrade with our favorite DAW  builder (studiocat) after selling my farm and relocating to Idaho to let the dust settle on all these recent developments ... we are in exciting times, the likes of which we haven't seen in a number of years as Intel sat on its ars because it could!  I've always tried to be on the cusp and had local folk help me but this time I'm gonna let Jim do it right!
 
Soon...it'll be time! Sitting on the bucks...excitedly waiting ...hope that by the end of the year I'll be ordering a MEGA VastMaschine!
2017/08/12 15:55:08
Jim Roseberry
Will Sonar benefit from extra CPU cores?  Yes.
That said, you don't want to sacrifice significant clock-speed for more CPU cores.
The Intel i9 7900x has 10 cores running at 4.5GHz... and it's rock-solid.
The AMD Threadripper 1950x has 16 cores running at 4GHz.
AMD's Infinity Fabric (unlike Intel architecture) benefits from faster RAM.
X370 and X399 motherboards have been extremely flakey running RAM set above 2666MHz.
 
Given the current state of first-gen motherboards, we won't build Ryzen/Threadripper machines for clients.
If you're tech savvy, you can deal with the hiccups.
Many folks just don't want to deal with these issues... and especially not when paying $1500 for a CPU/motherboard.
Professional clients (composers for TV/Film) can't deal with any down time.
 
If you're tech-savvy, don't mind a potential hiccup here/there, and lack of Thunderbolt-3 isn't an issue... you'll be pleased with Ryzen/Threadripper.
 
 
 
2017/08/12 16:09:06
Jim Roseberry
Vastman
Great new article... https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/08/amd-threadripper-review-1950x-1920x/
 



From the verbiage, you can taste the AMD bias in that article.  
ie: Article provides benchmarks of the TR-1950X over-clocked... but not so with the i9-7900X.
 
AMD is clearly back on the playing field...
But Ryzen/Threadripper as a high-performance platform (in current state) is more of the "mechanic's hot-rod" rather than the rock-solid workhorse.
 
2017/08/12 16:10:14
interpolated
The advantage of having so many cores, is you can park them and use them for applications at the same time if needed.
 
2017/10/09 02:52:48
soundtweaker
Jim Roseberry
Will Sonar benefit from extra CPU cores?  Yes.
That said, you don't want to sacrifice significant clock-speed for more CPU cores.
The Intel i9 7900x has 10 cores running at 4.5GHz... and it's rock-solid.
The AMD Threadripper 1950x has 16 cores running at 4GHz.
AMD's Infinity Fabric (unlike Intel architecture) benefits from faster RAM.
X370 and X399 motherboards have been extremely flakey running RAM set above 2666MHz.
 
Given the current state of first-gen motherboards, we won't build Ryzen/Threadripper machines for clients.
If you're tech savvy, you can deal with the hiccups.
Many folks just don't want to deal with these issues... and especially not when paying $1500 for a CPU/motherboard.
Professional clients (composers for TV/Film) can't deal with any down time.
 
If you're tech-savvy, don't mind a potential hiccup here/there, and lack of Thunderbolt-3 isn't an issue... you'll be pleased with Ryzen/Threadripper.
 

Are the 2nd gen AMD motherboards out? If so how is the stability these days?
 
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