• SONAR
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2015/02/16 00:28:36
theheliosequence
I love this plugin, but I do feel like it would be cool to see a couple more things in the PC version. Why not?
 
1. A separate Expander/Gate module. I understand that you'd have to limit the functionality of the compressor to work within the gui space of PC... but why not just have a separate module so that none of the features are actually missing?
 
2. I think it would be amazing to add a Side-Chain feature in the Compressor module... and, if it was ever made, the Expander/Gate module. This would actually give Sonar users a unique added value beyond just having the workflow options of PC modules.
 
Just a thought. Carry on...
 
2015/02/16 00:37:29
Anderton
theheliosequence
2. I think it would be amazing to add a Side-Chain feature in the Compressor module... and, if it was ever made, the Expander/Gate module. This would actually give Sonar users a unique added value beyond just having the workflow options of PC modules.



Sidechains are great, I don't think any processor could ever go wrong by including one.
2015/02/16 02:00:13
theheliosequence
Anderton
theheliosequence
2. I think it would be amazing to add a Side-Chain feature in the Compressor module... and, if it was ever made, the Expander/Gate module. This would actually give Sonar users a unique added value beyond just having the workflow options of PC modules.



Sidechains are great, I don't think any processor could ever go wrong by including one.




See if you can get the bakers to take a look into it for us!
b
2015/02/16 07:28:11
bobguitkillerleft
Hi,
hope I'm not too off topic but 
I'd really dig more Craig Anderton FX chains, they're really teaching me there is a ton of life left in the Sonitus series[especially as my Waves licence USB stick decided to fail-yet it still works for Plugin alliance?],also they're extremely usable for guitar rock.
Bob
2015/02/16 08:24:41
irvin
Anderton
Since Gibson took over, you gained: 
  • The equivalent of two paid updates (this year's and next year's) for the price of one.

 
Very interesting. How does that work for people like me? I have a license for Sonar Studio X3.
 
If I pay for the update (say, Platinum), I will have the new version of Sonar, which includes the dot releases you will provide during the year to fix bugs and possibly add other features. Where is the second upgrade?
 
 
Anderton
 
Since Gibson took over, you gained: 
  • Regarding not "real sales," all I can say is that if you own X1 or X2 and want to upgrade to Platinum, open your emails (although X1 to Platinum for $199 already seems pretty decent to me).



I'm on X3 and my upgrade subscription would cost $360. At $199 I would have upgraded a LONG time ago!!!!
 
That said, I want to make my position clear: I have ONLY (read carefully!) criticized the timing of the BOZ offering along with the way it took center stage, giving people the impression it was part of the upgrade "goodies" (something any reasonable person would notice pretty quickly). In other words, I have offered constructive criticism on Cakewalk's marketing. I still think it's wrong - but that's just my opinion.
 
That said, I personally think the subscription model is a good offer because it gives people the best of both worlds:  you can just buy the program outright (that's the way it has always been), you can  buy the upgrade outright (as was always the case) or you can use the subscription. So, we have what we always had and the subscription is just one more option. That cannot be bad for customers.
 
Two things have prevented me from upgrading:
1. Price - too high for my budget ($360 is too much for an upgrade)
2. Sonar does not have an easy way of doing pre-roll punch in, like Reaper, ProTools or Samplitude. Yes, I can manage to do something very similar with Sonar, but it's far from ideal.
 
I'll wait until the price is more in line with my expectations. Perhaps a sale...
2015/02/16 08:31:14
irvin
Anderton
theheliosequence
Sorry for the rant... just bummed by the response of some people in this thread.

Don't feel alone. I've been getting PMs from people who feel the same way, but don't want to waste time trying to reason people out of unreasonable positions.



Funny you mention that, because I have received just as many emails telling me the honest feedback being provided by several people on both sides of the debate is very healthy for the product and for the forums. Goes to show you that there is room for variety! 
2015/02/16 10:39:13
Anderton
irvin
andertonSince Gibson took over, you gained: 
  • The equivalent of two paid updates (this year's and next year's) for the price of one.
 
Very interesting. How does that work for people like me? I have a license for Sonar Studio X3.
 
If I pay for the update (say, Platinum), I will have the new version of Sonar, which includes the dot releases you will provide during the year to fix bugs and possibly add other features. Where is the second upgrade?

 
One more time...if you pay for the update now, you get 1) the update that brought X3 up to Platinum (e.g., "X4"). Then you get 2) the updates over the next year that under the old system would have brought you "X5." Your claim that it will "possibly" add other features is wrong. It would be correct if you had said "definitely." There is a Drum Replacer scheduled for March, as well as additional functionality for existing features, like AudioSnap and MixRecall. Those are definite; there are plenty of others in various stages of completion. 
andertonAnderton
 
Since Gibson took over, you gained: 
  • Regarding not "real sales," all I can say is that if you own X1 or X2 and want to upgrade to Platinum, open your emails (although X1 to Platinum for $199 already seems pretty decent to me).
I'm on X3 and my upgrade subscription would cost $360. At $199 I would have upgraded a LONG time ago!!!!

 
This is also wrong.
 
 

 
You can get it for $149 right now. See above. Even if you go monthly it's 12 x $14.99 = $179.88. Not $360.
 
Here's another way to upgrade right now from X3 to Platinum for $149 and split that into three payments.
 
Two things have prevented me from upgrading:
1. Price - too high for my budget ($360 is too much for an upgrade)
2. Sonar does not have an easy way of doing pre-roll punch in, like Reaper, ProTools or Samplitude. Yes, I can manage to do something very similar with Sonar, but it's far from ideal.

 
1. The upgrade is $149. See above.
2. With TV Options set to "On Stop, Rewind to Now Time," set the Now time to where you want to the pre-roll to start and define your punch points. After doing your punch and stopping, SONAR will return to the pre-roll start point. I don't think setting the Now time where you want the pre-roll to begin is all that onerous, it's only one click.
 
I'll wait until the price is more in line with my expectations. Perhaps a sale...

 
It's on sale now for $149. See above.
 
2015/02/16 10:45:14
Anderton
irvin
Funny you mention that, because I have received just as many emails telling me the honest feedback being provided by several people on both sides of the debate is very healthy for the product and for the forums. Goes to show you that there is room for variety! 

 
I agree that honest feedback can indeed be helpful. However, I feel feedback is most helpful when it is based on the facts of a situation..
2015/02/16 10:50:11
Razorwit
deswind
I would be curious to hear any information about the product and its performance, if that is ok :)
 



Hey Alan,
Couldn't agree more. FWIW, I did post some of my impressions a while back in this thread, and since you're in my neck of the woods if you ever wanna drop by and poke at it let me know.
 
Dean
2015/02/16 11:24:23
irvin
Anderton

This is also wrong.



You can get it for $149 right now. See above. Even if you go monthly it's 12 x $14.99 = $179.88. Not $360.

Here's another way to upgrade right now from X3 to Platinum for $149 and split that into three payments.

Two things have prevented me from upgrading:
1. Price - too high for my budget ($360 is too much for an upgrade)
2. Sonar does not have an easy way of doing pre-roll punch in, like Reaper, ProTools or Samplitude. Yes, I can manage to do something very similar with Sonar, but it's far from ideal.


1. The upgrade is $149. See above.
2. With TV Options set to "On Stop, Rewind to Now Time," set the Now time to where you want to the pre-roll to start and define your punch points. After doing your punch and stopping, SONAR will return to the pre-roll start point. I don't think setting the Now time where you want the pre-roll to begin is all that onerous, it's only one click.

I'll wait until the price is more in line with my expectations. Perhaps a sale...


It's on sale now for $149. See above.
 




 
When I log into my account, it says $29.99 or $360 for the year. This is what I get:


 
 
 
 
 
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