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2015/02/05 09:44:01
Anderton
cclarry
I don't HAVE to support anyone...but, if the price is the SAME...I'll support
the developer...



Either way you support the developer. But ny purchasing from Cakewalk, you support the people who were responsible for ProChannel development and will continue to be responsible for ProChannel support.
2015/02/05 09:51:14
Anderton
piangio
See what happens for some apple APPS for example...

 
Apple makes its money from the hardware, and priced apps low as an inducement to buy the hardware. By setting the price low, they set a standard that makes it very difficult for other companies to make money. Few music software manufacturers will tell you that producing apps is financially worthwhile. It makes sense only if they can tie it in with hardware, as companies like Line 6 and IK Multimedia do. The low price of apps is exactly why you don't see a flood of killer music apps.
 
 
 
2015/02/05 10:34:27
piangio
You are right.
Simply I don't buy it.
Mine was only a wrong point of view.
Bye!
 
2015/02/05 12:13:38
KPerry
Note: The demo from the Boz site appears not to have the PC version of it.
2015/02/05 14:05:16
Anderton
piangio
You are right.
Simply I don't buy it.
Mine was only a wrong point of view.
Bye!



No, not a "wrong" point of view at all. Many people are not aware that there's a very low rate of return on apps. So the apps either need to be simple, tied in with hardware, or offer some kind of unique advantage (like programming a synth from it). 
2015/02/05 14:11:30
paulo
Anderton
paulo
 
Kind of sucks though that you've so recently been pushing what amounts to half an upgrade based on promises of future goodies over the coming year and yet the first thing you announce has a price tag that's almost as much as people just paid for the upgrade ??
 



Consider this:
 
"You can purchase the bundle today for only $99 and that includes all Mac/PC formats (VST, VST3, AU, AAX, RTAS and ProChannel)."
 
Please be aware that Cakewalk sells products other than SONAR. The CA-2A is cross-platform and has sold very well because, well, it's pretty awesome. Cakewalk is clearly interested in offering something to Mac and non-SONAR users, while offering the bonus of ProChannel support if you are a SONAR user.
 
This is very different from a Cakewalk-created upgrade to SONAR that's part of the membership program.
 
As to the cost, I can quibble over whether a price that's 66% of the upgrade is "almost" as much, but Cakewalk is not going to undercut Boz Digital Labs' pricing. However, you DO receive a ProChannel version, which the Boz package does not include. [edit: apparently now it does]
 
 
 




Consider this:
 
My comment wasn't addressed to you. Open questions I'm more than happy to hear anything you may have to say, but comments addressed to specific people are exactly that. You regularly point out that you don't actually work for CW so I don't see why you feel the need to answer on their behalf all the time.
 
I'm well aware that CW sell other products and FWIW I have no idea if this particular product is good value or not, it may well be excellent, it might be the best plug-in in the whole universe, my point was that the timing is a bit lousy given that the upgrade pricing was based on a few minor modifications, but otherwise mostly promises of good things to come that will be included in what has already been paid, then the very first new thing announced has a price tag. That's all.
 
Sonar Platinum upgrade from X3 Pro is on sale at $125, so yeah $99 is pretty near to that. I think most people would consider 80% of something to be most of it, but hey I'm sure I'm wrong about that too.
 
 
2015/02/05 14:17:16
WallyG
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
We are pleased to announce that the new David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor is now available at the Cakewalk Store for a special introductory price. You can purchase the bundle today for only $99 and that includes all Mac/PC formats (VST, VST3, AU, AAX, RTAS and ProChannel).
 
The new David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor is a one-of-a-kind plugin that includes a Compressor, Equaliser and a Channel Strip with both the Compressor and Equaliser (available only in the bundle). The brainchild of producer/engineer David Bendeth (Paramore, Breaking Benjamin, Papa Roach), this marks the first time that this legendary hardware has been emulated as software plugin. The original unit was used on classic recordings (think Led Zeppelin drums) and is perfect for drums and vocals. The hardware version sells for over $2000 but right now you can purchase this unit for only $99, which also includes new ProChannel modules for the Compressor and Equaliser. 
 
Learn more
 
Buy the bundle today for only $99




Andrew,
 
I just purchased the bundle and installed it in Plat. It seems that if you use the Prochannel module, several of the functions are missing, compared to opening it up in the FX chain. FX chain (in Prochannel) is also the only way to pull up the combined EQ, Compressor/Expander. I realize that you have limited space.
 
So why have it in a PC module?[Never mind, I found the little ?]
 
Also, is there a .pdf manual for this? I know the controls are pretty industry standard, but just asking...
 
Thanks,
 
Walt
2015/02/05 14:59:29
Andrew Rossa
paulo
Anderton
paulo
 
Kind of sucks though that you've so recently been pushing what amounts to half an upgrade based on promises of future goodies over the coming year and yet the first thing you announce has a price tag that's almost as much as people just paid for the upgrade ??
 



Consider this:
 
"You can purchase the bundle today for only $99 and that includes all Mac/PC formats (VST, VST3, AU, AAX, RTAS and ProChannel)."
 
Please be aware that Cakewalk sells products other than SONAR. The CA-2A is cross-platform and has sold very well because, well, it's pretty awesome. Cakewalk is clearly interested in offering something to Mac and non-SONAR users, while offering the bonus of ProChannel support if you are a SONAR user.
 
This is very different from a Cakewalk-created upgrade to SONAR that's part of the membership program.
 
As to the cost, I can quibble over whether a price that's 66% of the upgrade is "almost" as much, but Cakewalk is not going to undercut Boz Digital Labs' pricing. However, you DO receive a ProChannel version, which the Boz package does not include. [edit: apparently now it does]
 
 
 




Consider this:
 
My comment wasn't addressed to you. Open questions I'm more than happy to hear anything you may have to say, but comments addressed to specific people are exactly that. You regularly point out that you don't actually work for CW so I don't see why you feel the need to answer on their behalf all the time.
 
I'm well aware that CW sell other products and FWIW I have no idea if this particular product is good value or not, it may well be excellent, it might be the best plug-in in the whole universe, my point was that the timing is a bit lousy given that the upgrade pricing was based on a few minor modifications, but otherwise mostly promises of good things to come that will be included in what has already been paid, then the very first new thing announced has a price tag. That's all.
 
Sonar Platinum upgrade from X3 Pro is on sale at $125, so yeah $99 is pretty near to that. I think most people would consider 80% of something to be most of it, but hey I'm sure I'm wrong about that too.
 
 




We feel the upgrade is a great value and is more than just a few modifications. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion and everyone must judge value for themselves. For example, anyone who does a lot of vocal work will probably find VocalSync to be extremely useful. Anyone who loves drums and drum programming will immediately see value in getting three more AD2 kits. I think you could look at it the opposite way and what a great value our upgrades have been over the years. $149 for an upgrade is on the lower side of upgrade pricing for most DAWs. Just my opinion. 
2015/02/05 15:01:36
twoifbysea
Images of the PC modules please, both of them. 
2015/02/05 15:02:33
Andrew Rossa
Kamikaze
Seems they have some more plans, so I wonder if they will also be ported to PC format.
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/967154-boz-digital-labs-david-bendeth-signature-series-compressor-plugin-17.html#post10710033
 
Maybe a reason to buy direct from Cakewalk, when the price is the same, as it will show them how many are interested in PC versions.


The plan is to work together if all goes well. Boz and David are great and easy to work with so we definitely want to do more. 
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