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  • [Solved] No mastering reverb on the mastered mixed down WAV file
2015/02/18 20:33:44
Shepiod
I use Izotope Ozone 5 for mastering. It has a mastering reverb as many of you know and I've been able to get some nice reverb sounds for my mastering.
I have not been able to get the reverb to transfer to the mixed down 16bit stereo WAV file as it is not coming through on the burned cds for the Cakewalk CD burning software in XP1.
I also have been trying to find the "Main out" for the Stereo mixed down track to send to the mastering software in the main out track which was suggested to me by all I can find is MASTER outs and outs from my MOTU 896 HD listed in the outputs of the stereo mixed down track.
Any suggestions?
I really need to get this reverb on these files and i will be all done with this project.
 
Thank you in advance.
 
 
 
 
 
 
2015/02/18 20:58:08
Karyn
MASTER outs...  I assume you mean the bus called Master.
 
All your tracks and busses should end up routed to the Master bus.  Route the Master bus output to the MOTU outputs that have your monitors connected.  The ONLY thing going to the MOTU output should be the Master bus.
Your mastering plugins go in the FX bin of the Master bus. 
When you export the audio to create the 16/44 WAV file, select only the Master bus as the source.
2015/02/19 07:19:52
Shepiod
I play the mastered tracks through my studio monitors and they contain all the mastering INCLUDING the reverb.
When I export them to WAV file and burn a CD the reverb is gone.
 
All mastering is in the Master track bin and nothing in the mixdown track.
Do I need to select entire mix and just send it all to the master channel with all but mixdown track muted?
I suppose if I used the ruler and darkened only the mixdown channel this might work?
 
I'm still confused.
 
Thank you for any further clarifications.
 
 
2015/02/19 07:21:09
Bristol_Jonesey
What Karyn said.
 
Also, if you mute your master bus, you should hear nothing.
 
If you DO hear anything you need to check your routing
2015/02/19 07:27:24
Karyn
Shepiod 
All mastering is in the Master track bin and nothing in the mixdown track.


I don't understand what you mean by "Mixdown track".
2015/02/19 07:51:33
Shepiod
I mix all my tracks and bounce them together to a separate stereo track via "Track Bounce". I mute all the performance tracks and select the stereo track only useing the ruler to scale that stereo track's content only as a track source and use it as my mixdown master stereo track and it is sent to the master track. I use all mastering Ozone in that Master effects bin.
It sounds really nice.
But the burned CDS have no reverb.
Should I be exporting these individual stereo mixdowns to a separate project file and then import them to their own mixdown project file(s) and them apply my mastering software to each individual file?
That seems rather cumbersome. But I am more than willing to do it if it will solve this problem.
 
????
 
2015/02/19 07:53:05
John
Most of us setup a "master buss" where every track and buss goes to it. We call it master because its the main or the buss that has all the audio going to it. If you select it when you export your mix the exported will contain the full audio.
 
Use the export dialog under file in the top menu.  Select buss and master if that is the name of the buss that all audio goes through. You can also use your main outs as the master buss for export. It will do the same thing. 
 
This is the simplest way to always have an export that will have everything in your mix. 
 
It is very important that you have all you sub buses and auxiliary buses output to the master buss. This assumes that tracks that don't go to a sub buss will go to the master buss. 
2015/02/19 08:11:42
mrneil2
Shepoid,
 
Not at my DAW now but isn't there something when you export that asks you to select effects?  I believe its on the right hand side near the bottom there is a menu.  Did you look at that?  What did you have checked?
2015/02/19 08:21:49
Shepiod
mrniel2:
I will check for that select feature for effects but I cannot get back to it till tomorrow.
That looks like something I may have missed.
I'm using Sonar XP-1 Producer. Is that the same DAW you are working in too?
Do you use Ozone Izotope as well?
 
 
 
2015/02/19 09:50:16
mettelus
When bouncing tracks be sure to carefully check that pop-up dialog... There are a lot of options there including sources, FX, etc. If your mixdown is not what you expect, try another mix down and check that carefully.
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