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2012/06/28 19:29:45
Beepster
If you want to do technical stuff you gotta know the basic principals of how stuff works. The day someone creates a DAW that works seamlessly on every single computer in every possible configuration and allows completely computer illiterate people to master the program at a glance is the day that someone will become extremely rich. If you can't be bothered to take the time to learn how to make it all work pay someone who did to do your recording for you. Life ain't easy. DAWs are harder.
2012/06/28 19:34:14
WDI
It often seems to me that most people who continuously post on this forum are more interested in how computers work then actually making music. I would guess that most people who use sonar are more interested in making music. 
2012/06/28 19:34:27
tlw
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I'm using the WDM/KS drivers with Roland's Quad-capture. The ASIO drivers on this thing are useless. Should I be using something else? I was told by the guy who sold it to me that these are the drivers I should be using. I also tested all the others and had the best luck with these. 

I've a Cake UA-101 (originally an Edirol interface, bought out by Cake/Roland).
 
Though the conventional wisdom says to use ASIO, for what it's worth I've found the WASAPI drivers give better results than the ASIO - could be worth trying with the Quad if WASAPI drivers come with it.
 
In my case at least, WASAPI made a (very long standing in Sonar but apparently very difficult for Cake to duplicate) loop recording bug go away and gives lower "round trip" latency. The drivers also seem rock solid (haven't had an X1 crash in many months).
 
I have no other sound cards enabled on the DAW (the m/board sound is disabled in BIOS) which also helps, plus it's an audio-focused installation with as few background tasks/services as possible.
2012/06/28 19:39:35
Chaos Choir
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2012/06/28 19:42:07
Beepster
I am FAR more interested in making music but I know that production is a LOT of learning and hard work. The reality is DAWs make it WAY easier and accessible than it used to be. Would I rather have a full time engineer with a full production studio living in my basement to record my every whim? Hell ya. But I don't. So I learn as much as I can and accept the inherent flaws and frustration that come with the process. You wanna be a doctor? Ya learn to do doctoring type stuff. You wanna be an music engineer? Ya learn engineer type stuff.
2012/06/28 20:59:03
stratman70
It's obvious you do not know a whole lot about computers. Don't blame Sonar (or any software) for your shortcomings. Sorry I have no sympathy for a ridiculous rant like that.
2012/06/28 21:31:38
bobguitkillerleft
Before my join date,I had only EVER used a computer for a couple of weeks,an old P3 a mate gave me to see what "it" was all about.

The next week I bought X1 Studio,and a Dell XPS 15 i7 Sandy Bridge laptop,a Tascam US600,some KRK gen2 5" Rokit monitors,and had literally NO SOUND,for 23 days.

It,eventually turned out to be a dud Tascam interface,and the only other interface the store had to swap,was a cakewalk UA25-EX,a USB 1.1 unit that has worked flawlessly,although the RTLatency with my listed desktop[much more powerful than the laptop] is 12.6 milliseconds.

A hell of a lot of problems are usually going to be user error,wether you're prepared to accept this or not.

Even though my desktop is way better,I'm actually using my Dell laptop mostly,as now after 13 months with X1,i'm way more adept,at setup,of the Operating System[W7 x64]and the Daw[X1d Producer Expanded]and I have everything duplicated,on both machines,and all is now totally smooth,the only thing that is not,is "backing up" on the laptop,and this is a W7/Dell thing,that is dependent on the media,wether it be an external USB HDD,or a USB stick[which is the only thing working correctly ATM],so problems are always going to appear,the best thing I can say is DO NOT PANIC-which you did with your original post.......it takes sometimes,a long time to get all 3 things to interact correctly-computer/OS/DAW,and this is the same for all the differring products.

I bought my desktop instead of getting a much better interface[same price]and I love the fact,that I now have a duplicate machine,that will work no matter what goes wrong,rather than spend all my money on one setup,which originally was going to be an Apple Macbook Pro,but had I gone that route,I would have had no money for anything but the computer,so I weighed up the options,and learned that since Sandy Bridge,Windows machines were way more cost effective,it just takes time,patience,and less panic,and all will work out...eventually,it is NOT a Sonar X1d fault however.

Bob
2015/02/20 15:18:43
lookupalot
I agree.... I just bought a copy of sonar and it is a complete piece of ****... Never had this many issues trying to get something up and running before and it's still not working. I contacted tech Support and have heard nothing back from them.... ****ing arsehole rippoff merchants.... Never, I repeat NEVER buy sonar or any cakewalk product.... you will be sorely disappointed... What a waste of money...
2015/02/20 15:25:54
lookupalot
All the people on this thread defending sonar are probably employed by the company and can kiss my arse.... I've used a heap of different programs for music production - logic, nuendo, FL,reason, cubase, Adobe audition... and never have I had so many issues and headaches setting something up as I have had with sonar... and then no reply from tech Support... whatever you do... never by sonar...and don't believe anyone on the net who defends the product... They probably work for the company
2015/02/20 15:27:04
Karyn
Lookupalot,
 
You're capable of resurrecting a two and half year old thread with your first forum post to complain that you can't get a piece of software to work properly but you aren't capable of simply stating what the problem is and asking for help?
 
Not a good start.
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