Daibhidh
Gibson did cheat you, but Bandlab is stepping up and trying to do right by the entire worldwide Cakewalk community - that's a fact. If you can't get past what Gibson did, get a good lawyer and try to take them to court for false advertising, that selling 'lifetime updates' knowing that you're going to pull the plug as soon as you get a good number of fish biting at the line, is fraud, but please don't misdirect your anger at Bandlab.

I realize this isn't a popular opinion around here, but the people at Cakewalk when the lifetime updates strategy was formulated, and Gibson, truly believed that the lifetime updates (which were part of a larger plan) would be viable and ultimately keep Cakewalk alive. I don't want to get into why it didn't happen as planned, but the original motives were honorable.
 
Remember that Gibson kept Cakewalk alive for another four years, at a loss, after Roland had given up. Also remember that while people were complaining about Gibson just casting Cakewalk aside and not giving a damn about the users, the company was working behind the scenes (presumably with Noel) to find a buyer that would keep the program alive, and enable the users to work with their software of choice.
 
Note that I was fired from Gibson. I have no reason or incentive to express these opinions other than my belief that Gibson has gotten a bad rap in all of this.
 
 

Anderton

Daibhidh
Gibson did cheat you, but Bandlab is stepping up and trying to do right by the entire worldwide Cakewalk community - that's a fact. If you can't get past what Gibson did, get a good lawyer and try to take them to court for false advertising, that selling 'lifetime updates' knowing that you're going to pull the plug as soon as you get a good number of fish biting at the line, is fraud, but please don't misdirect your anger at Bandlab.

I realize this isn't a popular opinion around here, but the people at Cakewalk when the lifetime updates strategy was formulated, and Gibson, truly believed that the lifetime updates (which were part of a larger plan) would be viable and ultimately keep Cakewalk alive. I don't want to get into why it didn't happen as planned, but the original motives were honorable.
 
Remember that Gibson kept Cakewalk alive for another four years, at a loss, after Roland had given up. Also remember that while people were complaining about Gibson just casting Cakewalk aside and not giving a damn about the users, the company was working behind the scenes (presumably with Noel) to find a buyer that would keep the program alive, and enable the users to work with their software of choice.
 
Note that I was fired from Gibson. I have no reason or incentive to express these opinions other than my belief that Gibson has gotten a bad rap in all of this.
 
 

Craig,
 
Thank you... seriously. It is so bizarre that, even in the face of those in the know (you and Noel) repeatedly saying what you just wrote, people for some reason still find the need to believe that Gibson "cheated" them.
 
Thanks for continuing to set the record straight.
 

Anderton
I realize this isn't a popular opinion around here, but the people at Cakewalk when the lifetime updates strategy was formulated, and Gibson, truly believed that the lifetime updates (which were part of a larger plan) would be viable and ultimately keep Cakewalk alive. I don't want to get into why it didn't happen as planned, but the original motives were honorable.
 
Remember that Gibson kept Cakewalk alive for another four years, at a loss, after Roland had given up. Also remember that while people were complaining about Gibson just casting Cakewalk aside and not giving a damn about the users, the company was working behind the scenes (presumably with Noel) to find a buyer that would keep the program alive, and enable the users to work with their software of choice.
 
Note that I was fired from Gibson. I have no reason or incentive to express these opinions other than my belief that Gibson has gotten a bad rap in all of this.

Thank you for telling me this. All I knew was the timing. I think it's because the offer came right at the end, not at the beginning when Gibson took over, so all many people see is they made a fantastic offer and many people forked over their cash and then the plug was pulled, but if what you're saying is true, then it only looks bad, but the intentions were not like that at all.

One thing I will try to remember to keep in mind is not to attribute motives, but just cite the facts.
The facts point towards bad motives through inductive reasoning (timing), but that isn't deductive or proof.

Thank you for sharing your experience. It is appreciated.

SEE NEXT POST
Cheers.........Frank in OZ :)

Anderton

Daibhidh
Gibson did cheat you, but Bandlab is stepping up and trying to do right by the entire worldwide Cakewalk community - that's a fact. If you can't get past what Gibson did, get a good lawyer and try to take them to court for false advertising, that selling 'lifetime updates' knowing that you're going to pull the plug as soon as you get a good number of fish biting at the line, is fraud, but please don't misdirect your anger at Bandlab.

I realize this isn't a popular opinion around here, but the people at Cakewalk when the lifetime updates strategy was formulated, and Gibson, truly believed that the lifetime updates (which were part of a larger plan) would be viable and ultimately keep Cakewalk alive. I don't want to get into why it didn't happen as planned, but the original motives were honorable.
 
Remember that Gibson kept Cakewalk alive for another four years, at a loss, after Roland had given up. Also remember that while people were complaining about Gibson just casting Cakewalk aside and not giving a damn about the users, the company was working behind the scenes (presumably with Noel) to find a buyer that would keep the program alive, and enable the users to work with their software of choice.
 
Note that I was fired from Gibson. I have no reason or incentive to express these opinions other than my belief that Gibson has gotten a bad rap in all of this.
 
 

Thanks Craig,
Your 'watched for' opinions are always ( and rightly so) given much weight in this forum.
 
If I May,
Perhaps the one glaring impediment to THIS amazing, worldwide , open forum is that us 'Ole Sonorites' (ie: now CAKE-WALKERS... I guess ) come from a multitude of different continents, countries, cultures and backgrounds.
 
 
WE MUST NOT FORGET THIS !
 
Lets face it...............SONAR /CAKEWALK is so blinkin good.... it's popular right across this beautiful planet.
 
Stealthy Communication with fellow Sonorites / Cakewalkers can indeed be problematic ,
 
For Instance,
Only the other day, a fellow Sonarite countryman politely warned me that our Aussie sense of humour can often fall flat with the yanks.
"Why ? I said.........The Joke is Obvious...............Obviously " !!!!
No.......... It often is not!!
We all have different backgrounds, interpretations and expectations.
 
As An Example,
This just may be why many of our loyal colleagues/associates are so intensely upset about lifetime membership issues as compared to other members . Their expectations, given their particular background, may be immensely different to yours. 
Flexibility and understanding may just be helpful here.
 
BOTTOM LINE:
We owe it to ourselves to step back occasionally and review our long held opinions.
Heck,...Is it Possible we have we actually got it wrong ?..............( nothing wrong with that.)
 
Do We Have Hard Facts OR Just following Popular Opinion ?
 
Craig has described his recollections / understanding of  our recent events and has essentially called for fair play / alternative consideration.
I think we all deserve fair play.
What do yall think ...... ( heck is that how you spell YALL ?)
Cheers.........Frank in OZ :)

Who do you expect to give you a refund? The company that owned a product that no longer exists? A company you never had a contract with? 
 
This is pure logic. Gibson is not required to honor the contract they made with you via Cakewalk, a subsidiary they owned, but which is now defunct. No contract is forever. they all have an endpoint. That particular endpoint was reached when Cakewalk was discontinued.
 
As for Bandlab, they are not Cakewalk or Gibson. They were never a party to your now meaningless contract with Cakewalk/Gibson.
 
Besides which, you can install and use for free the continuation of Cakewalk, which means that you effectively still have lifetime updates. All the 3rd party plugins you had with Platinum will work in it. you have what you had.
 
Please, let this sink in once and for all. You'll sleep better.

Daibhidh
Thank you for telling me this. All I knew was the timing. I think it's because the offer came right at the end, not at the beginning when Gibson took over, so all many people see is they made a fantastic offer and many people forked over their cash and then the plug was pulled, but if what you're saying is true, then it only looks bad, but the intentions were not like that at all.

 
What I'm saying is true, I was there. I have no reason to make excuses for anyone.