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  • So, am I understanding this correctly? (p.2)
2018/04/08 10:37:16
pwalpwal
someone asked about the izotope radius time-streching stuff, but i don't think we got an answer to that...
 
oh, i know! how about just a list of all this stuff from bandlab, rather then the whole "guess what..." **** that's going on at the moment?
2018/04/08 11:04:09
35mm
Cakewalk by Bandlab is Sonar Platinum rebranded. The version available now is a pre-release. It is likely that it will not include most of the 3rd party plugins that Splat used to have going forward, but if you already had Splat, you will keep your 3rd party plugins. The core software is now free, so essentially all of us who bought into the lifetime free updates continue to get what was Splat but is now called Cakewalk for free, but so does everyone else. It seems likely that the monthly updates will continue and that development will probably improve now without the constraints that were there before. As it is now free, it is likely to become the most popular DAW and therefore the most supported. There doesn't seem to be too much to be negative about at the moment - Cakewalk lives.
2018/04/08 12:25:23
Bristol_Jonesey
pwalpwal
Bristol_Jonesey
Inferior? In what way?


they removed the embedded 3rd party licensed stuff like pow-r dithering, for example


Ok, that's one (and with a very good reason) - anything else?
2018/04/08 14:33:58
chris.r
Bristol_Jonesey
pwalpwal
Bristol_Jonesey
Inferior? In what way?


they removed the embedded 3rd party licensed stuff like pow-r dithering, for example


Ok, that's one (and with a very good reason) - anything else?


drum replacer, boz prochannel modules I guess, and I wish somebody checked if the izotope radius mix algo for pitch/strech audio is there or not... please :D (I'm on 32bit windows, can't check it byself)
2018/04/09 00:42:02
rodreb
What? Drum replacer is not there?? Bummer!
2018/04/09 00:56:57
Kamikaze
Did you have Drum Replacer before, if so, then it's there. That's my understanding.
2018/04/09 01:08:39
dantarbill
I understand the situation with 3rd party stuff that had dependencies on legal agreements that are no longer valid because they are with a company that no longer exists.  That has minimal impact on legacy users who still have the .dll's and artifacts for those 3rd party products.
 
However, I had failed realize/recognize that there was also 3rd party IP that had been compiled into the SONAR executables that would need to be backed out (like pow-r dithering and iZotope time stretch).
 
A list of all of those missing pieces would be very helpful when deciding whether to move forward with the new BandLab/Cakewalk version.
2018/04/09 03:40:14
Cactus Music
Drum replacer and Melodyn are still there,, I used them today. 
I see no difference at all. Nothing has been taken away in my world and I think this is the best version for a long time. NO CRASHES!! yeh!  
2018/04/09 03:51:02
scook
rodreb
Maybe inferior is too strong but, anytime they take away stuff you used to have, that's a lesser product. Oh, and, yes, I was a lifetime subscriber of Platinum and a Sonar user since version 1.


The only thing I know is missing from the DAW are the pow-r algorithms and that probably is not a permanent situation see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3746538
 
What BandLab did was port the contents of two installers (SONAR Platinum and Artist Instrument Collection) to create a fully functional DAW that they could give out for free to everyone not just existing SONAR users. All the rest like Drum Replacer, Adaptive Limter, etc. will follow but was not a priority because those who have the plug-ins still have them and can use them in CbB.
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