• SONAR
  • For EDMers and new synth hopefuls! (p.2)
2015/02/11 00:47:57
AT
I like the plural synthS.
2015/02/11 00:58:53
Spencer
new synths are the last thing sonar needs. actual music making functionality for modern production is what sonar really needs.
 
example 1: where the hell is Duplicate?
example 2: we need automatic clip fades on slip edit (just made a feedback thread on this) cause having to zoom in and manually doing it every single time is insanely archaic
example 3: why isn't groove quantizing integrated in the step sequencer?
example 4: why the hell isn't there freely curvable automation lines?
example 5: why the hell is there no integrated parallel effects processing? (I'm well aware of the 20 possible workarounds, this is besides the point. same as with duplicate.)
example 6: why can we make macro knobs only with effects, not instruments too?
example 7: why the hell is there a limitation of 1 output destination for midi tracks?
 
could go on and on.
2015/02/11 01:47:15
Royal Yaksman
Spencer
new synths are the last thing sonar needs. 

 
I don't think the notice that new synths are being developed means that they've put all program functionality development on hold. I'd take a guess that Cake hired people specifically to create these synths? But no doubt the core team would be continuing to work on program improvements/enhancements.
2015/02/11 01:48:08
TomHelvey
Spencer

example 1: where the hell is Duplicate?



Here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Duplicate-Ctrl-D-m3099521.aspx waiting for your vote.
Duplicate is the kind of thing that no one thinks they need until they use it, then they can't do without it.
 
Back OT
I'm interested to see what Cakewalk comes up with, the current collection is a bit long in the tooth, even Z3TA+2. Z3TA made #12 in the MusicRadar list http://www.musicradar.com...the-world-today-262145

I would have to agree with MusicRadar on their selections, I've got most of the top 10 and they're the best sounding synths I have. Except for maybe Spire, it hogs way too much CPU for what it does. Sylenth has become my primary.
Maybe Cakewalk will shock us all and partner with LennarDigital or reFX. :)
Even better if they came up with their own SynthMaster killer.
2015/02/11 02:28:27
Sanderxpander
Is Sylenth still alive? There has been no development at all for two or three years now I think?
EDIT: And while I'm a synth guy and like new synths, I don't think anyone has exhausted the soundscaping possibilities of even Pentagon, let alone Z3TA+ 1/2. It's hardly limiting to the work you can do, although new sounds always bring new inspiration.
2015/02/11 02:46:20
TomHelvey
Sanderxpander
Is Sylenth still alive? There has been no development at all for two or three years now I think?
EDIT: And while I'm a synth guy and like new synths, I don't think anyone has exhausted the soundscaping possibilities of even Pentagon, let alone Z3TA+ 1/2. It's hardly limiting to the work you can do, although new sounds always bring new inspiration.

Yeah, there hasn't been an update in a while but it's still there. Maybe they don't want to mess with a good thing. It's has a limited feature set relative to some of the newer synths, but it still sounds good, I've always thought of it as being friendly sounding. Probably nothing you could quantify.
2015/02/11 06:17:17
RajahP
Royal Yaksman
So Noel said this in another thread:
 
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
We have some upcoming synths in the near future that might be of interest and feel free to send in requests for EDM specific stuff.

 
VILLAGERS REJOICE!!!
 
.... and... I'm... wet...




 
I wonder if the bakers used 'Camel Milk' to make 'these' synths?
2015/02/11 10:30:08
Royal Yaksman
I realise that the statement alone is a teaser? But can we have even more teasers?
2015/02/11 10:32:45
Royal Yaksman
RajahP
I wonder if the bakers used 'Camel Milk' to make 'these' synths?



Surely camels milk would have sand in it? So connecting the pieces, sand is grainy, grainy stuff is granular, therefore it will be a granular synth?!!
2015/02/11 10:33:13
AT
And to think I used to make music w/ just two synths - mini-moog and ARP odyssey. 
 
What I would like to see is Cakewalk give us more types of synthesis, kinda like what Imagine Line did w/ the max Claster synths, FM, Additive, etc.  With Alchemy on the way out (maybe), I'd love to see a granular synth.  A real scanning wavetable synth etc. too.  A new VA would work too, if they made it thicker sounding than the René synths.  Those are good ones, too, but could use new libraries.  A little ever-greening would get interest juicing in them.  Nothing wrong w/ the synth engines, esp. for cutting sounds.  I just always found I needed something like Alchemy or other VAs (even Komplexer, which was a Waldorf kinda synth) for Rapture to cut through.
 
I try to remember Cake is a DAW company, not synth, but they have come up with Rapture & Z3TA, which are real gems.
 
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