• SONAR
  • Today's upgrade experience.... (p.2)
2015/01/29 10:21:14
EezyP
I'm travelling in SE Asia at present with a laptop.  Not back to Europe for several weeks.  Fearing demise of the intro upgrade offer I thought 'give it a go', cranky guesthouse wi-fi notwithstanding.  Downloaded Platinum overnight via CCC.  Took 7 hours, watching progress meter increment in 100ths of a %. !!  Smooth as a baby's conscience!!!  Installed DimPro, Rapture, Melodyne etc. over about 5 hours the following night.  Worked seamlessly.  Amazing.  Respect for whoever engineered that download manager.  Programme's pretty good so far, too!
2015/01/29 11:07:00
Gerry
Perfect for me as well really impressed. Had problem with AD 2 ADPaks but suspect it was a pilot error on my part.
 
Apart from that brilliant. Now all I need to do is get my head around Platinum as Sonar 7 was a long way back but I'll get there eventually. Oh opened up some old projects even as far back as Producer 4 and they loaded perfectly. Looking good.
2015/01/29 12:16:22
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Hi John,
 
Glad that you had a good experience with Platinum. Regarding the blank PC modules issue the problem only occurs with users who chose to Migrate their settings, due to a small bug in the migration code.
 
The images that SONAR displays for disabled Prochannel modules are "stand-in" art for modules that gets saved during the scan process. In SONAR Platinum these are stored in this folder:
%APPDATA%\Cakewalk\VSTBitmapCache\SONAR
 
The above  path is stored in the registry here:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR\Cakewalk VST X64
The path string is stored under the "VSTBitmapCachePath" string.
Please let me know what you see in this string on your machine.
 
The problem is that the migration process ends up copying the entire VST inventory from the prior version of SONAR along with the old path which was: 
%APPDATA%\Cakewalk\VSTBitmapCache\SONAR Producer
 
Additionally since the inventory was up to date after the migration, SONAR doesn't rescan the plugins automatically again. So you can end up with missing cached bitmaps. 
 
Workaround:
As you noticed, re-scanning fixes the problem. If you feel comfortable doing it you can also make sure that the path in the registry key above is %APPDATA%\Cakewalk\VSTBitmapCache\SONAR
If you do this, in the future this won't be an issue. You may need to rescan again after this change. Alternatively you can copy the contents of the "%APPDATA%\Cakewalk\VSTBitmapCache\SONAR Producer" folder to 
"%APPDATA%\Cakewalk\VSTBitmapCache\SONAR" which is the new location. 
 
I have already fixed the problem in the code so the next update will have the fix for new users.
Let me know if you need any more info.
2015/01/29 12:22:01
Bristol_Jonesey
Nice one Noel, thanks
2015/01/29 22:06:25
John T
Ok, so to follow up on this, today I did a fairly punishing ten hour session with a different act from yesterday. Many overdubs over eight different songs, all in a fairly advanced state, all worked up thus far in X3.
 
All kinds of things in the projects; quite a lot of TruePiano, DimPro and other soft instruments alongside the live stuff. Bits of Melodyne (unbounced), huge array of pug-ins already in use. Fairly varied and complex project files is what I'm batting at. Lots of the Sonar feature set breaking a sweat today.
 
Anyway, I made the same rule for myself as yesterday; at the first hint of an issue, I'd go back to X3 without the band even noticing, hopefully.
 
Anyway, absolutely not a hiccup, stutter, crash, missing plug in or anything.
 
Of course, we could be peevish and say "well, that's how it should be", but anyone who works with computers in an intensive way knows it almost never is like that.
 
I'll add this: I was initially underwhelmed by the update to AudioSnap, and I still would like to have seen more, but it really is more accurate on transient detection, and definitely less buggy. So it made my life better in a small but very tangible way today.
2015/01/29 22:09:08
John T
Ah, and VocalSync is really, really good. We were doing a song that has (counts) 9 different singers layering up the chorus, and mostly left the timing as it was, as that slightly disordered thing is the effect we want. But for any egregious timing issues, VS fixed it in seconds. The way you easily dial in how much precision you want is great. A wonderful piece of super simple but powerful UI design.

I really do sound like a shill now, don't I? I'm not, I'm just really impressed.
 
2015/01/29 22:53:12
John T
Dying to see the Drum Replacer thing. If it's even half as well designed as VocalSync, it'll be an utter joy.
2015/01/30 01:43:40
FastBikerBoy
John T

I really do sound like a shill now, don't I? I'm not, I'm just really impressed.
 



No need to meet you with pitchforks and torches at the ready then John? 
2015/01/30 02:19:03
Anderton
John T
Dying to see the Drum Replacer thing. If it's even half as well designed as VocalSync, it'll be an utter joy.



I'm not sure, but I think the Drum Replacer takes advantage of ARA. Maybe someone from Cakewalk could confirm or deny.
2015/01/30 02:30:57
Keni
Sounds great John!

Hearing this is a good sign...

I bought it today but may not be able to download it tonight...

Keni
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