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2015/02/09 09:24:49
jatoth
Just for clarification.
 
From Websters:
 
subscription: an agreement that you make with a company to get a publication or service regularly and that you usually pay for in advance.
 
an arrangement for providing, receiving, or making use of something of a continuing or periodic nature on a prepayment plan.
 
Sounds exactly like the CW payment model. Or is it me?
 
 
2015/02/09 09:39:16
Karyn
jatoth
Just for clarification.
 
From Websters:
 
subscription: an agreement that you make with a company to get a publication or service regularly and that you usually pay for in advance.
 
an arrangement for providing, receiving, or making use of something of a continuing or periodic nature on a prepayment plan.
 
Sounds exactly like the CW payment model. Or is it me?

It's you.
 
 
As you rightly quoted, subscription allows you to continue receiving a publication or service for as long as you keep paying.  BUT, if you stop paying, you stop getting the service, or in the case of Adobe, you can no longer use the software.
 
Cakewalk are allowing you to pay in 12 instalments, rather than a lump sum.  If you complete the 12 instalments you OWN it.  That is NOT subscription, that is paying in instalments.   It's not being pedantic, they are 2 completely different things.
 
If you already own Sonar, the specific thing you're buying is a 12 month membership to an upgrade plan.  This entitles you to monthly updates to the core program and extra content.
If you don't own Sonar, you're buying the complete software package of your choice, plus a 12 month membership as above.
 
Subscription does not exist in the Sonar universe.
2015/02/09 09:50:30
mudgel
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2015/02/09 09:55:43
mudgel
Karyn
jatoth
Just for clarification.
 
From Websters:
 
subscription: an agreement that you make with a company to get a publication or service regularly and that you usually pay for in advance.
 
an arrangement for providing, receiving, or making use of something of a continuing or periodic nature on a prepayment plan.
 
Sounds exactly like the CW payment model. Or is it me?

It's you
 ...................
Subscription does not exist in the Sonar universe.


Seems some people just have to be right. Not because their being right will correct some terrible injustice. No! Just so they can be right.
This is done despite the fact that they are wrong anyway.
Does it really matter? No!
How many more lines of text are going to be applied to flogging this dead horse? Thousands at least and more, probably.
2015/02/09 09:59:15
jatoth
Karyn,
I am not talking about the monthly installments AT ALL. Monthly installments are a PAYMENT PLAN. Which only adds to the confusion of some.
If I pay CW something in advance and CW agrees to provide me something for a limited time (one year). And then I need to pay CW something in advance to receive something later again for a limited time (one more year), what do you call that? CW calls it "membership" Websters calls it a subscription.
Continually telling people a subscription is not a subscription only adds to their confusion.
As I said earlier, I am not the least bit confused. I understand the English language pretty well. And I know exactly what CW is promising to give me for my money. I am merely pointing this out based on the thread's title. AudioFanzine did NOT get it wrong, a subscription is a subscription, regardless of what CW wants to call it.
 
2015/02/09 10:04:30
mudgel
Where AudioFanzine got it wrong was in saying that it was like the Adobe subscription which it isn't.

In any case I started this thread purely for the purpose of informing Cakewalk as I stated in my OP. The rest is just wasted words that don't amount to anything because they are all outside the scope of this thread; should have been locked as I requested. That's it for me now.
2015/02/09 10:04:42
Karyn
mudgel
Karyn
jatoth
Just for clarification.
 
From Websters:
 
subscription: an agreement that you make with a company to get a publication or service regularly and that you usually pay for in advance.
 
an arrangement for providing, receiving, or making use of something of a continuing or periodic nature on a prepayment plan.
 
Sounds exactly like the CW payment model. Or is it me?

It's you
 ...................
Subscription does not exist in the Sonar universe.


Seems some people just have to be right. Not because their being right will correct some terrible injustice. No! Just so they can be right.
This is done despite the fact that they are wrong anyway.
Does it really matter? No!
How many more lines of text are going to be applied to flogging this dead horse? Thousands at least and more, probably.

The problem is that many folk come here to decide whether or not they are going to buy Sonar as opposed to some other DAW. (I'm told that other DAWs do exist, but I'm sceptical..)
It is only fair to those folk that what they read here is correct.
 
As hosts we have 2 basic choices.  We can reply to every incorrect post with the correct information, or we can lock (or outright delete) the blatantly incorrect posts.
The fallout still hasn't settled from the last blatantly incorrect thread that I locked on the subject of Membership.  All we can do is keep correcting people every time.
2015/02/09 10:10:20
Karyn
jatoth
Continually telling people a subscription is not a subscription only adds to their confusion.

Nobody is saying a subscription is not a subscription.
We are saying CW Membership is not a subscription.
You are saying it is...  THAT is what is confusing people.
Please stop saying it.
it is not.
2015/02/09 10:13:08
pwalpwal
maybe there should be a sticky?
2015/02/09 10:34:57
bitflipper
Thread locked at the request of the original poster.
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