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2014/03/29 20:22:34
stevec
If you simply use the "regular" Ctrl+V to paste in, nothing beyond that point will move - you'd have to use Paste Special with the Slide Over Old to Make Room option.   Also, be careful which track is selected when pasting as that will determine where the paste starts vertically.
 
2014/03/29 21:34:19
Anderton
Also, be careful which track is selected when pasting as that will determine where the paste starts vertically.
 
Thought that was worth a bold/Italic Not that I've ever made that mistake, of course.
2014/03/29 21:44:48
Sacalait
Yeah, I'd agree copying/cutting and pasting is pretty kludgy.  I'm not calling it a bug but the functionality is a downgrade from earlier versions of Sonar. 
2014/03/30 13:29:33
Bristol_Jonesey
Anderton
Also, be careful which track is selected when pasting as that will determine where the paste starts vertically.
 
Thought that was worth a bold/Italic Not that I've ever made that mistake, of course.


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2014/03/30 13:44:56
stevec
It's a triple play.   
2014/03/31 09:55:30
brconflict
If I read the symptom correctly there is a problem with how Paste works in Take Lanes. Even if you prefer the Paste to occur in a different Lane, it probably will not appear there. I've complained about this a couple of times. Cut/Paste in Take Lanes is not quite yet user-friendly or intuitive in my humble opinion.
2015/02/08 17:12:58
theblue1
Anderton
Also, be careful which track is selected when pasting as that will determine where the paste starts vertically.
 
Thought that was worth a bold/Italic Not that I've ever made that mistake, of course.


 

Hey, Craig, you know me elsewhere as blue2blue. As you may recall, I've been with CW/Sonar since the audio beginning,  CWPA 6.0 in '96. 
 
I've just updated to X3e bld 252. 


I'm running into what appear to be some pretty serious bugs in the copy and paste operations. I just compared the same operations in 8.5.3 and X3e -- and X3e appears seriously broken by any standard. For one thing, things don't even necessarily happen the same way twice. To say I'm enormously frustrated is an enormous understatement. 



Let me ask this: in X3, how would one, for instance, double the length (by copying) of a 4 bar intro section (3:1 to 7:1, let's say) to 8 bars (so that it occupies 3:1 to 11:1) across all tracks?

In 8.5 and before it was easy. You would select-all, drag across the timebar to limit the selection to 3:1-7:1, copy, and then paste with the slide-to-make-room option and align-to-measures options on. Bingo. (Or you could use the select by time menu option.)

But when I try it in X3e, all kinds of wacky things happen -- with apparent inconsistency, no less. Sometimes one thing happens, sometimes another, even when I carefully mimic my previous actions. But the one thing that DOESN'T happen is the ability to select all of that time slice and copy and paste it. Sometimes some tracks get copied. Sometimes others. 

Sometimes select-all seems to select everything. Sometimes it doesn't. But even when stuff of similar nature (MIDI clips, say)  appears to be selected, it doesn't all paste or delete (depending). Sometimes some track clips are pasted to one place in the timeline, sometimes another.

And Paste-Slide to make room definitely does NOT work.  

I just tried select-all and split -- but only SOME clips split. I then applied Project- Insert (4) Measures, going through all the motions but ZILCH, no change. Nothing budged. No measures were inserted.
 

I'm beside myself. After almost two decades of mostly happy use, I can't even imagine having these kinds of problems with a product version that has already been through FIVE fix-it updates. 


 
2015/02/09 00:44:57
brundlefly
theblue1
And Paste-Slide to make room definitely does NOT work.  

 
Slide Over to Make Room hasn't worked properly for a long time. I thought it was already broken in 8.5, but maybe not. I believe this is one of the few issues that's been included in the Known Issues list in the Readme. I always make the space in advance when I need it, and leave the paste mode as Blend Old and New.
 
As for the other issues, I would recommend you start a new thread, and give very specific examples of what's not working. In my experience, this is almost always a usage issue. A lot of unexpected results boil down to Copy and Paste options. Using Copy Special and Paste Special will let you better see what's going to happen. Once you change a an option, that state persists for all subsequent copy/paste operations. So chances are the options are just set differently than you're used to.
2015/02/09 01:37:42
theblue1
Thanks.  It is good to have the slide issue confirmed.  With regard other issues, perhaps my unfamiliarity with the somewhat different UI paradigm is conspiring against my understanding of what's going on. I'm going to have to observe things and try to pin down the seemingly inconsistent behaviors I think I'm seeing.  I shouldn't waste anyone else's time if I can suss it out on my own. 
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