• SONAR
  • Collaboration (general community question)
2013/10/12 06:39:01
mettelus
I consider myself an "avid hobbyist" but have a pretty decent studio set up, and been working with music for most of my life. I am not a "professional," but enjoy doing/creating a lot. I started with CW in 1998, and have really enjoyed the new horizons this opens. The "collaboration capability" is awesome, but perhaps I am not sure where to look for SONAR users interested in such (the real question; the rest below is more rambling).
 
The reason this came to mind is I have friends who play music, even convinced a drummer to get a set of Roland TD9 V-drums, and yet even though they have watched SONAR and all of its plugins in action, only one ever got SONAR - and uses a work laptop that cannot run it properly (and all of these people do IT as their "day job"!! LAME). Their interest is more to play other people's work, and do so live, so sort of nips creating anything original in the butt. Sort of frustrating...
 
As a result, I have done most creation solo in my own time, but find I am much more creative with feedback/participation. I have not researched this, but with gobbler, soundcloud, etc., is there a good resource to find other musicians who use SONAR interested in collaborating?
 
Michael
 
2013/10/12 09:14:55
DaddyV
Michael,
As a hobbyist myself. I collaborate regularly with two other friends who use non SONAR DAW"S. I send them wave stems in emails. They record whatever they want and send their stems to me for mixing & EQ etc. Gmail seems to work best using the drive feature so you can send larger files but still usually one at a time as waves are BIG files.
 
I would be happy to help in any way! I'm a wiz at programming EZ/Supperior Drums if you need that? Guitar & Bass are my main instruments but I can edit midi like crazy...go figure! Just don't expect a piano concerto from me...LOL
 
Vic
2013/10/12 09:25:29
John
I would look into the Coffee House Band. They are a group of members that hang out in the CH and do a lot of songs together.  Don't let them know I sent you and that I think they are a pretty good group. 
2013/10/12 09:48:05
Razorwit
Hi Michael,
While it hasn't been traditionally used as such, I can't think of a reason that this forum couldn't be a resource to find other folks who want to collaborate. You might also try the songs forum.
 
FWIW, I do distance work with other (usually non-Sonar using) folks all the time. Like Vic mentioned, the usual method is by using stems, though I generally use some sort of shared internet-based storage (dropbox, google drive, etc) instead of email. In fact, in my experience, that kind of distance work is very common.
 
If you're looking for collaborators, I'd give it some thought. PM me if you'd like to give it a try...
 
 
Dean
2015/01/23 19:12:39
RajahP
Well, it's 2015 now... Notices that other companies are starting to incorporate Collaboration tools into their DAWs...
I think a Cakewalk Collab will be wild.. And with tools like Ik Multimedia's Irig Mic/AmpliTube etc. even musicians/vocalists who are not into DAWs can collaborate thru their Phone/Tablet..
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dx2zxRQfco&x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534
2015/01/23 19:14:28
Splat
Well I remember Res Rocket Surfer (and I was a member)...
2015/01/23 19:22:39
Splat
This thread gave me the motivation to read this (I was involved in 1995 for a few years):
http://www.jamwith.us/about_us/rocket_history.shtml
 
 
Which in turn pointed me to this (which might be interesting):
 
http://jamwith.us/
 
 
2015/01/23 20:35:12
BobF
I find collabs pretty straightforward sharing audio files.  A free box.com account has enough space for a tune or two and collabs are really easy to set up.
 
 
2015/01/23 21:16:54
Keni
I'm trying to remember the name of the (free) software...

I played with it a way back when I first discovered it. Actually allowing for online collaboration. Based out of Europe at a scook there.

It involves one person settin up a dedicated machine to act as server and has a system of allowing playback adjustments at each participant and sends from your track up to the server. It gets inserted as vst plugins on the appropriate track(s)...

I'm sorry I'm blanking on the name and I will seek it when I have access to my machine...

Oh, and I too have collaborated using stems. I find that I give MP3 files for the stems so that it's easier to deal with on,I've as the stems are only really needed for monitoring while adding tracks...

And I use dropbox with dedicated shared folders... I'm glad I never gave in to the gobbler system in light of how that has developed! ;-)

Keni

I just found this at the top of a search. It's not the one I mention above, and it's created by another DAW manufacturer, but it is DAW compatible with any that support VST or au...

http://www.sonicscoop.com...-online-collaboration/
2015/01/23 21:30:58
bapu
Keni
Oh, and I too have collaborated using stems. I find that I give MP3 files for the stems so that it's easier to deal with on,I've as the stems are only really needed for monitoring while adding tracks...

Kenni,
 
You do realize that an mp3 (even highest 320kbps CBR) has about 72 samples of silence (header info) in the file?
 
So you send an mp3. They play to it. They send back an mp3. You now have their take with 144 samples of extra silence. Alignment nightmare unless you both agree to some actual audible alignmnet (like a four beat snare) starting at measure two and "never" align to 1:1 with your files.
 
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