Anderton
Everything I've seen says that it reverts to demo mode. The answers in the FAQ were proofed and vetted over a period of several days. I would take what it says over Seth writing a quick reply in a forum. 

It's obviously very important to me and continued development.
Seth has always been accurate in his dealings with me when I was permitted to test as a 3rd party dev.
 
I guess I'll wait and see what really happens in a month. Somebody may speak from experience then. I will need to test against platinum so a 49.00 outlay could be wasted in
a months time. As I said earlier, I can dev against it just fine in demo mode.
 
:Ron

cparmerlee
Is the question the difference between not being able to run the program at all versus being able to run in demo mode?  What difference does that make?  If it drops into demo mode, you can't really use it for any productive work.

I disagree. Being able to play back a file could be very important. One of the reasons I adopted Ableton Live for live performance way back when was because the demo mode could play back files. So if the airlines crushed my computer, I could still run to Best Buy, get a laptop, download the Ableton Live demo, pull out my USB stick, and do a performance. 
 
BTW I always mention using Ableton Live for live performance but that's not 100% of the story. With the Gibson HD-6X hex digital guitar, I use SONAR as a host for VST effects. I just don't use it to run any sequences.

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
You are 100% correct. In the past we would make fixes and improvements for 6-8 months or so then shift over to a new version. Now we'll be regularly making improvements but also adding new features. And as a bonus, working on less features at a time will help improve the quality of an already great product. A lot of people also have mentioned that releasing products sooner somehow implies they are not ready or are in beta. That couldn't be further from the truth. The big difference now is once they are ready and tested, we can release them immediately. No holding back. 

Are guys doing full regression and integration testing for every new feature? Done done? If so, that's impressive.
The last large software project I worked on, someone would add a new feature that broke something that wasn't tested every day in a seemingly unrelated area of the code and it wouldn't get caught until QA had the time to focus exclusively on integration testing.

Anderton

Earwax
I don't understand why you don't understand that knowing what fixes and improvements have been made to the core product would be important to users.
And yeah, I did read everything Jsaras typed.

 
With X3, after the program was released it took 10 days before a bug fix list was published. The typical pattern is release - find a few major bugs - issue a patch immediately thereafter - consolidate the bug fixes in the original version with the ones in the immediate update so there aren't two versions floating around separated by only a few days. If no major bugs are discovered I don't know how that would impact publishing the list, but it would also represent a miracle 
 
 
 

Craig, thanks for responding with a positive attempt to address my concerns. Your response highlights why my questions addressed not only bug fixes, but core product improvements. I've got to think that when any software developer redesigns a product, it is done with the intent of improving the way the new version handles core functions that it shared with the old one. Otherwise, what's the point in spending time and energy on a new version? Of course, with a new version (and new content and features) will inevitably come - new bugs! I'm obviously not asking Cakewalk to publish a list of bugs that exist in the new version (unless, of course, they can). I'm asking them to address improvements made to core functions shared between the old and new versions of the software. I mean, c'mon! They've got to know what they improved! Right?? It is generally a company's major sales technique for anything "new and improved" to tell the public...well...what is new and improved!! I got the new. What's the improved?
 

Earwax
I'm obviously not asking Cakewalk to publish a list of bugs that exist in the new version (unless, of course, they can). I'm asking them to address improvements made to core functions shared between the old and new versions of the software. I mean, c'mon! They've got to know what they improved! Right?? It is generally a company's major sales technique for anything "new and improved" to tell the public...well...what is new and improved!! I got the new. What's the improved?

The link was to a bug fix list for X3/X3a and X3b, so it covered the ones from X2 to X3. Presumably the one for Platinum will include the ones from X3 to Platinum. It seems one bug that mattered to me is you can now bounce with MIDI FX in real time as well as fast bounce mode. Also...
 
I CAN PASTE BUS AUTOMATION FROM ONE BUS TO ANOTHER! FROM A BUS TO A TRACK! FROM A TRACK TO A BUS!!
 
I guess someone was listening to Stickman 
 
Actually it seems like automation has a bunch of clean-ups. Maybe that happened in the process of doing Mix Recall.

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
When a new version comes out, we pull the old. This way customers get the latest version. And from now on, when any customer purchases, they will always get the latest version. That includes retail as well. So gone are the days where you buy an old version mistakenly only to come home and see there's something new out there. Or buying a product and then seeing a new version come out the next week. You are always up to date in our model.

I just bought x3 at the beginning of January... I wish someone had informed me. 

Agreed with Earwax - I appreciate that the blurb up at http://www.cakewalk.com/sonar is about the flashy new features and upgrades to reel people in, but for those of us already reeled in and flapping about on the boat (to stretch the analogy somewhat) it would be great to see a change-log of the fixes that have happened between X3e and whatever is released in a few days' time.

Anderton

TabSel
If X3 ever was so successful as you said Craig, why change? Why discontinue the success, have happy loyal customers and build upon and grow your good reputation and gain new customers by that, In contrast to upsetting loyal und scare potential new customers?

Don't get it...

If you had a really successful album, wouldn't you want your next album to be even better? Be more adventurous? Reach out in new directions? Take some chances? Gain a wider audience? 
 
"He not busy being born is busy dying." - Bob Dylan
 
(P.S. The number of scared customers seems to be in a minority. Multiple identities created by one troll don't count as multiple people.)

I would not offer a promise to do an even better album and charge upfront on a monthly subscription...

Craig, we differ in views and opinions, it's not you who might convince me by words to spend my money, it's cakewalk, who might convince by delivering. Don't see everything I say as negative. I am neutral. Neither do I spend money, nor have cakewalk delivered and proven that it's worth to be a member. Let it be.

We will see.

I have a question regarding ProChannel modules.  I apologize if this was already asked and answered.  I searched the thread and wasn't able to find my specific question.  I currently have X3 Producer and am considering switching to the new Professional version (not Platinum).  I understand that any separately purchased PC modules will show up in Professional, but what about PC modules included with X3 Producer that are not purchased separately and also not included in the default Professional version? I'm specifically referring to Breverb Sonar, PC76, PC4k bus compressor, Console Emulator, Tape Emulator and Tape Saturation.  Since I 'own' these from X3 Producer, will they still be available to me if I switch to Professional?  And, if I do get access to these modules within Professional, what is required to activate them? Does X3 need to be installed on the machine or does activation happen through the command center, etc.?
 
Thanks in advance!

I have a few questions:
 
1. I have Sonar X3 and I have purchased the full versions of Addictive Drums 2, TH2, Melodyne, etc. Will the installation of Platinum let me bypass the installation of the "lite" versions of software I already own?
 
2. AD2 Producer comes with 3 AdPaks, MidiPaks and Kitpieces. Can I just select the 3 add-ons and not install AD2 with Sonar?
 
3. I went to purchase the pre-sale "Pay Up Front" option and I noticed there was no option to get the boxed discs as there have been with past versions. Is that not an option with the new membership?
 
4. When I went to check out in the Cakewalk Store, my credit card info was already there. I don't want my credit card info stored on the site. How do I delete it after making the "Pay Up Front" purchase?
 
Thank You.