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2015/01/21 16:35:03
jm24
"
In the cold
I drew the blade across my wrist
To see how it would feel
Looked into the future
There was nothing to reveal
For we were just the product
Of the ever spinning wheel

Round and round we go
Round and round and round we go
"
The Strawbs    a great group from  far far ago, long long away.
2015/01/21 16:36:50
bapu
rfreeze
Remember, there isn't an annual version.  There are "continual" releases ...

Since that's been one of my mantras for the last four days I'm likely to NOT forget it.
2015/01/21 16:37:07
BobF
JoseC.
As I see it:
1. You pay 12 months membership or full license upfront, you own the license forever.
2. If after 12 months you renew membership or (if you payed upfont) start paying monthly, you get upgrades, and they are yours, forever.
3. If after, say, 19 months membership, you cancel it, you own everything you received, forever.
4. If after cancelling you acquire membership again, say, 5 months later, you receive those 5 months worth of updates, BUT you do not own them, so:
5. If you cancel membership again before you pay 12 months or the price of a full license UPGRADE ($199 or so), you roll back to the point when your initial 19 month membership ended, but:
6. If you do pay for those 12 months, everything you receive until the next time you let your membership expire is yours, forever.




Well presented JoseC
2015/01/21 16:41:23
jm24
OBVIOUSLY, After 12 months the membership will need to be renewed.
 
OBVIOUSLY, We have no details now about what the renewal offer will be.
 
OBVIOUSLY, IT IS A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME AND BITS TO SPECULATE!
 
How about we all waste our time and bits writing about our happiness and joy with what we are about to receive?
 
 
 
2015/01/21 16:42:29
bapu
I cannot fo to bed. SOMEONE is wrong on the internet.
(and it may be me)
2015/01/21 16:45:26
BobF
jm24
OBVIOUSLY, After 12 months the membership will need to be renewed.
 
OBVIOUSLY, We have no details now about what the renewal offer will be.
 
OBVIOUSLY, IT IS A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME AND BITS TO SPECULATE!
 
How about we all waste our time and bits writing about our happiness and joy with what we are about to receive?




What better way to pass the time waiting for jrrshop to get my email out than to make bold assertions that are the opposite of other people's bold assertions?
 
pre-acquisition happiness and joy evaporated a few hours ago :)
2015/01/21 16:46:43
SteveStrummerUK
 
 
It's only fair and practical to insist on 12 consecutive monthly payments.
 
If you were able to drop out for a month here and there, and then get back on the payment ladder at the same point, it would encourage those of us who don't use the program frequently or commercially to deliberately organise our projects and workflow to just pay for a month here and there when we required the latest features in the software.
 
Say for example, that providing you have a permanent licence for a reasonably recent version of SONAR, in the current model there's nothing to stop you from doing all your tracking and basic MIDI work on that older version. If you organise your workflow carefully, what's to stop you signing up with a single monthly payment to the very latest SONAR Platinum to mix all those projects, being able as you would, to take full advantage of all the cool features. After a month, you stop your payments and revert back to 'preparing' the next batch of products in X3, for example. In 4 or 5 months time, you simply pay another month and so on.
 
Under these circumstances, which as far as I can tell is completely legitimate, I think it would be completely unfair for someone following this method to keep the latest version of the software after they've maybe paid 12 separate monthly payments over what might be 3 or 4 years, or longer.
 
 
2015/01/21 16:46:51
bapu
In the end, since I am an annual (no Drew I did not say anal ) updater, and will most likely always pay upfront the only thing this all means to me is if I don't always update on exactly one year later I'm ok with that. If I spazz out for 12 or 19 or 46.765765459 days I'll get everything up to that point when I do make my annual renewal.
 
2015/01/21 17:01:59
bapu
OK, I just realized that 
 
I AM WRONG
 
WRT 18 consecutive month payments, the first 6 months was just a "rental" if CW want to see it that way, it's their prerogative. The last 12 months does indeed complete a membership and the user is entitled to all of the software to that point if the opt out.
 
I was viewing it as start on day one. CW is looking at "on the 18th month did I have 12 months of consecutive payments?".
 
 
2015/01/21 17:20:18
Grem
But Steve, I think CW Bakers are going to make the user want to stay signed up. So the scenario you explain wouldn't be the "norm" and at some point, the user will finally pay for the "upgrade" and become a "member" with "all" the benefits of a membership.

I am willing and eager to see what is going to go down.

Knowing what CW has stated is their intentions, I'm sticking around.
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