Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]

Vern C
Because I guess it got lost in the shuffle the first time:
 
What if you're like me and got Addictive Drums 1 when it was offered with Sonar? Would I get Addictive Drums 2 this time?

Yes, you get the Producer Bundle so you get to choose 3 new ADpaks, MIDIpaks, and Kit Pieces. 

Andrew,
You're not answering the "real" question. Will we be getting the upgraded Addictive Drums 2 or just the Addictive Drums 2 engine? The latter doesn't allow you to use previously purchased AD1pacs. This question has been asked before but not answered. Thanks.

Walt

Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
 

perfectprint
With Mix Recall - can it only A/B or can you save and choose from multiple different scenes from within a project?

 
You can A/B the latest 2 mixes, but you also have a drop down of all your available mixes.

Thanks Seth. The video didn't show any saved mixes on the drop down menu, but I now see the screenshot on the 'Whats New' page does. Great feature - saves loading entirely new projects.
 
 
Any info on what Direct Stream Digital (DSD) actually does for users?

Greeny
Ok I get it. Sorry for my earlier frustration, I misread a few things and jumped to some conclusions. It makes sense now. Whoever said being dumb was easy. In my defense - iits late and I'm tired. Please feel free to slap me with a sonar platinum boxset.

OMG!  We've saved Greeny!
 
I've got to tell you guys, I was a little worried there for a while....
 

perfectprint

Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
 

perfectprint
With Mix Recall - can it only A/B or can you save and choose from multiple different scenes from within a project?

 
You can A/B the latest 2 mixes, but you also have a drop down of all your available mixes.

Thanks Seth. The video didn't show any saved mixes on the drop down menu, but I now see the screenshot on the 'Whats New' page does. Great feature - saves loading entirely new projects.
 
 
Any info on what Direct Stream Digital (DSD) actually does for users?

+1 DSD info?
 
Can you mix or edit DSD files?!? or does Sonar just convert PCM to DSD for output? Most DSD DAWS are very expensive...

Does this mark the end of major new Sonar releases in the future? Is this now an evolving amorphous product?

What is the price in euro?
 

bladetragic

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]

Susan G
Sorry if this has been asked. It's hard to keep up!
 
If we pay for the monthly subscription for, say, three or four months and then decide we want to purchase it outright, is what we paid for the subscription deducted from the full purchase price?
 
Thanks-
 
-Susan
 
 

Honestly, that's not a path we want to manage. There is no way to make the really automated. We'd be managing a lot of SKUs and scenarios. I understand why you might want to do that and then hope you can go back to paying upfront. I think that's why we want to offer a demo on day 1 so people can have 30 days to try out some of the new features. 

I'm confused by this.  Are you saying that if someone was to pay monthly for 6 months they don't have the option to pay off the remaining 6 months in one lump sum if they choose??? 

That is another issue I have. If I pay for 6 months on something, I better have the option of paying the rest to own it....... I am with you guys at cakewalk on this subscription thing being a great idea. But honestly if someone pays 6 months on something and not be offered to pay the other 6 months to own it isn't to cool for me. Again, I pay for the 149.00 upgrade anyhow but still..
If I am reading it correctly, it is "either or"........

I think the mix recall feature might be well worth the price of admission. I don't think any other DAW has it, brilliant!
Great idea!

looking at the Version comparison page right now as an X3 Producer owner and I am seeing one drawback to this purchase model.
 
Off the bat with everything I own already I would pick PROFESSIONAL. All I lose out on is Vocal Sync and two ADpacks, neither of which I would miss. I would like to be an informed consumer and know exactly how much more over the 12 months is expected to be added exclusively to PLATINUM. With the release date around the corner all I see is a hint at a drum replacer.
 
 
Would I be able to pay the additional $49 (soon to be $99!) to make that 1 step upgrade halfway though a PRO membership to get any new PLATINUM features?

My concern with this model is...
 
1) What happens in the event that a feature is introduced, but not properly functioning within the 12 month membership period?  Take Lanes is a prime example.  There are STILL glitches and bugs with Take Lanes and it has been well over a year since that feature was introduced.  As a customer, I would be upset if I bought into this model and it's "promises" and get stuck with a feature that is not properly functioning and then have to pay again (renew membership) just to have it fixed somewhere down the road.  Also, if I get stuck w/ a feature like Take Lanes that still has issues, I run the possibility of having to pay for another full 12-month sub just to "retain" the patch or update that contains said fix or else I may lose it.
 
2) Also, to borrow a previous posters scenario, if I pay for 18 months straight, then skip one month, then pay for another 6 months straight and then decide not to pay the next month, I now revert back to the version from month 18???  Even though, I invested another six months worth of money into the product???  That seems a bit unfair to the customer, if that is in fact how it works.  I can see that being a big issue. What if a customer runs into a financial hardship for any particular reason and is strapped for cash...only to lose all the benefits/content they paid for the previous six months?
 
3) While this initial offering seems very good, going forward Cake is going to have to really bring some serious content and features to the table after this initial year to show customers that the yearly subscription is worth the investment.  Although, that could be a good thing for customers......putting the pressure on Cakewalk to really bring it. 
 
Which leads me to......
 
How will customers know exactly what they're paying for w/ the 12 month membership??? Let's say it comes time to renew my membership next year, how will I know what is on the horizon??? Furthermore, how will customers have reassurance that Cake will provide consistent content???  Do we just have to close our eyes and believe or will there be some kind of schedule set and adhered to by Cakewalk on how often new content/updates/etc. will be released.  There's got to be some kind of system to consistently keep the customers informed and enthusiastic on what's to come with this kind of model.
 
All in all, I think a lot of the question and concern customers have (and are going to have) is due to unfamiliarity and uncertainty of just how much Cakewalk will deliver on their end b/c this is all new.  This model can be as good or as bad as Cakewalk makes it.  If they deliver on their end it can be REALLY good.  If they don't, it could be REALLY bad.