I'm with you Drew, I'll worry about the future, tomorrow.

I guess the big release will be NAMM, so it should be available at the Cake store after that yes?
 

I'm not a fan of this kind of setup. But it's "customer friendlyfied" enough to make me want to give it a try for a year. I'll keep an eye on alternatives during that year and jump ship if I'm not happy. But I would really hate to do that after so many years.
 
I haven't seen anyone concerned that tech support only will be available while you're a paying member? As I understand that's a huge change, currently Cakewalk takes calls from basically any user don't they? But maybe it's not a big deal. I have only used tech support once myself that I can recall, and that was for pyro, not Sonar.
 

joden
I guess the big release will be NAMM, so it should be available at the Cake store after that yes?

That was the best guess supplied by CW too. It is buried in this thread in the single digit pages.

scook

joden
I guess the big release will be NAMM, so it should be available at the Cake store after that yes?

That was the best guess supplied by CW too. It is buried in this thread in the single digit pages.

Cool

So what is being said in full front...This software is not fully made, you see more needs to make more money...Moe cash in the cow, or cow in the cash....and you are stating it will be updated, as all things needs be, that are not fully functional or working as should be?...So you make the peoples pay forward?....why not get it completely right out of the box?...and make us pay full price...because things with computers as I know of in some forms....Things change, and so does gear....and to pay for something, get it, and then it is no longer supported by the system it is made for....is ok to pay for...but to say, this software is asking for payment for further upgrades and such, in stating it will do in time adding in new or fixes, makes my mind worry about upgrading if it is not working fully...and needs be fixing!...who pays us to R&D?...and the hair loss if it is buggy?
 
 
So please stand bye....and please take notes.....

beltrom
I'm not a fan of this kind of setup. But it's "customer friendlyfied" enough to make me want to give it a try for a year. I'll keep an eye on alternatives during that year and jump ship if I'm not happy. But I would really hate to do that after so many years.
 
I haven't seen anyone concerned that tech support only will be available while you're a paying member? As I understand that's a huge change, currently Cakewalk takes calls from basically any user don't they? But maybe it's not a big deal. I have only used tech support once myself that I can recall, and that was for pyro, not Sonar.
 

Actually that's always been their official policy (ie: once the new version came out the old version was technically no longer supported) but they always still helped out. I'm hoping this approach remains the same because I'm going to be stuck on X3 for a while barring any miracles. I don't call them often but when I do it's important.

Andrew Rossa
And even without the intro offer, for SONAR Producer customers, it's only $19.99 month.

Forever?
i.e. if 2-4 years later I'll decide to rent Platinum version for a month (for some work) it still will cost $19.99 to me (as X3 Producer owner today)?
 

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]

boblettnoe
So, current owners will not see the usual $150 upgrade price to the next version, it would be a $600 upgrade cost per year? ($50 * 12) or $500 up front...still much more than what we have been used to...

Current SONAR X3 customers pay $149. See pricing chart that Willy posted. You can also do $14.99/mo.

This seems fair.

Sir Les
So what is being said in full front...This software is not fully made, you see more needs to make more money...Moe cash in the cow, or cow in the cash....and you are stating it will be updated, as all things needs be, that are not fully functional or working as should be?...So you make the peoples pay forward?....why not get it completely right out of the box?...and make us pay full price...because things with computers as I know of in some forms....Things change, and so does gear....and to pay for something, get it, and then it is no longer supported by the system it is made for....is ok to pay for...but to say, this software is asking for payment for further upgrades and such, in stating it will do in time adding in new or fixes, makes my mind worry about upgrading if it is not working fully...and needs be fixing!...who pays us to R&D?...and the hair loss if it is buggy?
 
 
So please stand bye....and please take notes.....

In a nutshell, if software companies waited for a program to be guranteed bug free to release, we would not have advanced much past pong and " hello world" . What will be released will be comprable to any major release from any company in terms of bugs. I have plenty of software that never crashes, yet I get tons of "fixes" for issues I did not know existed. Twisting it to sound like this is a perpetual beta test is plain false.  I think it is deceptive to state that something is "being said in full front" when they said no such thing. You are projecting your false notions that have no source othercthan imagination.