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2015/01/14 15:20:21
Soft Enerji
Just trying to get a definite answer to the Addictive Drums question that has been asked. Will I be able to use my ADpaks, MIDIpaks and Kit Pieces that I already own and use in AD 1, with AD 2? 
 
Sorry if this has been answered and I've missed it but I've just scrolled thru 15 pages of this thread and my brain hurts! I'm heading off to work now so will check in when I get there and hopefully some kind person can give me the answer.
 
Cheers
 
Mark
2015/01/14 15:21:51
scook
djjhart@aol.com
So do you need an Internet connection to continue to use Sonar. How would they know when you paid off? Seems like an internet connection is required.. can someone shed some light on this? Thanks John


The is an authentication method for computers not on the internet. It would require having some internet access somewhere to send the authentication request and receive the authentication file to load into SONAR. Using the monthly plan would require using that authentication method or the Command Center connected via the internet each month to prevent SONAR from going into demo mode.
2015/01/14 15:25:20
djjhart@aol.com
scook
djjhart@aol.com
So do you need an Internet connection to continue to use Sonar. How would they know when you paid off? Seems like an internet connection is required.. can someone shed some light on this? Thanks John


The is an authentication method for computers not on the internet. It would require having some internet access somewhere to send the authentication request and receive the authentication file to load into SONAR. Using the monthly plan would require using that authentication method or the Command Center connected via the internet each month to prevent SONAR from going into demo mode.


Thanks Again Bro..


2015/01/14 15:32:59
slartabartfast
200bpm
This looks ok, but I suspect the generous upgrade options will be phased out over time. 
 
I can't prove it, but I suspect people with older versions better jump now into the new subscription pricing.  Cakewalk has always been good honoring OLD versions of software towards upgrades, but too much is changing to make me feel like that will be true moving forward.




In all fairness, the idea that any Cakewalk product would be available for a cheap upgrade price beyond any particular date was always a major gamble. Nothing in law or the usual custom in business would support that assumption, and those of us who took the chance of skipping a version were always at risk of being forced to pay full price when we did decided to jump back in. The cheap upgrades were an effective enticement, not an act of charity or an entitlement. Your relationship to Cakewalk, be you fanboy or critic, was and always has been that of seller to customer. The emotional attachment many forum contributors have to the company is understandable. For the most part (the nontransferable license being a glaring exception) the company has been sensitive to the customers and to a sense of fairness. If your confidence that this will continue has not been shaken by this new marketing strategy, good for you. But I am with you that planning on an upgrade at a later date for a good price from an old version is more of a gamble than it has ever been.
2015/01/14 15:33:46
karlssonhaus
Soft Enerji
Just trying to get a definite answer to the Addictive Drums question that has been asked. Will I be able to use my ADpaks, MIDIpaks and Kit Pieces that I already own and use in AD 1, with AD 2? 

I think - no. It just AD2 engine with 3 drumpacks, midipacks and kitpieces. If you want upgrade your existing AD1 packs you have to pay $79
2015/01/14 15:34:19
lawajava
There's 15 pages of comments here so it may be answered somewhere in the thread already.
 
I'm a Sonar Producer user.  Like quite a few of us, I have the full version of Addictive Drums 2.
 
In getting Sonar Platinum would I skip the install of the Addictive Drums installer, and would I still get the 3 Addictive Drums packs to choose from (on top of the ones I already have).
2015/01/14 15:36:35
Beepster
jbraner
It's a little confusing but seriously... after going through all the material I'm telling you that this actually works out much better for the end user than the old model. It may start to suck after this year is over but as of right now we, the users, are kind of making off like bandits.

 
I don't think anyone is out to screw us though (on purpose anyway).
I bet if things were looking dodgy after a year or so (like there aren't enough new features ready) - we'll be able to get a "discount membership" or something like that. That would be easy to implement.




From what I've experienced in my relatively short time with Cakewalk it seems apparent the Cakewalk guys themselves aren't vulturous screwholes and from what I understand Gibson is giving them wide berth to do what they think is right for their own brand. So if the Bakers are in charge I can only assume that we are going to be getting a lot and the program will advance as it should. Roland... well I'm glad we are rid of them. Roland makes great stuff but something foul was happening at the upper echelons and it was messing with the program (just my impression... don't quote me).
 
After the release of X3 I have had faith and will continue to do so unless proven otherwise which at his point I have not been so... good luck, Cake. Onwards and upwards, eh? :-)
 
And now I should go do my own work. Cheers.
2015/01/14 15:39:14
CoteRotie
I think the new model is very clever.  I'm still using Adobe CS5 because I don't want to go full subscription but this method kind of gives you the benefits of the subscription model (support, updates) without the drawbacks (you get to keep your software if you want to stop paying.)
 
Personally I always upgrade when the new version comes out so it won't make a big difference for me.
 
John
2015/01/14 15:41:35
nzpaul
lawajava
There's 15 pages of comments here so it may be answered somewhere in the thread already.
 
I'm a Sonar Producer user.  Like quite a few of us, I have the full version of Addictive Drums 2.
 
In getting Sonar Platinum would I skip the install of the Addictive Drums installer, and would I still get the 3 Addictive Drums packs to choose from (on top of the ones I already have).




As I understand you won't get an installer for AD2, you'll just get a license code for the AD2 producer bundle which you register with XLNaudio and it then lets you choose 3 kits, 3 kitpieces and 3 midipacks from their website which will add to your existing collection
2015/01/14 15:42:01
scook
lawajava
 
I'm a Sonar Producer user.  Like quite a few of us, I have the full version of Addictive Drums 2.
 
In getting Sonar Platinum would I skip the install of the Addictive Drums installer, and would I still get the 3 Addictive Drums packs to choose from (on top of the ones I already have).


Platinum subscribers get this http://www.xlnaudio.com/p...bundle/producer_bundle
I am sure the XLN installer knows you already have AD2 and will only install the ADPaks, MIDIPacks and Kitpiece Paks you order from them.
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