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2015/01/14 16:48:59
AdamGrossmanLG
Question:
 
If I buy the product for $499 up front/one payment, will I have a subscription?  Will I get any updates at all?  
 
Alewgro
2015/01/14 16:49:02
konradh
FWIW, Any full-featured DAW is a lot of software and function for the price, especially considering that the user base is somewhat limited compared to general consumer software.  Having a monthly option makes it even easier to bear.
2015/01/14 17:04:09
djjhart@aol.com
As I under stand you get more for being a monthly subscriber.
2015/01/14 17:04:20
Beepster
Anderton
Do not underestimate how much Henry J is into this. When the CEO and Chairman is behind something, that's pretty much all you need. I don't really need to have anyone's ear, but I do help in as many ways as I can, given that I have many other obligations at Gibson...have I mentioned how well Neat Microphones went over at CES?   That's my other "baby," and they are going to shake up the world of mics.
 
Good times. Stay tuned.
 



This is completely OT but I have been noticing a LOT of seemingly youth oriented Gibson branding (like you see the Gibson logo on many Adult Swim productions and the like) as well as general branding, a huge push of the Epi line and all sorts of other stuff. Gibson... well I've always preferred their axes and they're pretty iconic in that regard so they COULD rest on their laurels and be totally fine BUT with this heavy HEAVY push forward in seemingly all directions makes me think despite the fact they really could just sit on their butts and continue making money they are opting to expand and innovate. That's why, even though I am always skeptical of the actions and intentions of corporate entities, I was pleased to see them take over Cake (seriously I was furious at the end of X2's release cycle) and honestly am not as worried as I'd normally be over a move like this by another company. 
 
I'm not exactly a "youth" anymore but really, for the most part, that will be who (and has) consumes most of my own releases so the old school stuff backing this new push into technology is pretty interesting as a consumer. I think Sonar is probably the best package for a guitar player (which is why I bought it and I'm sure why you seem to be such a loyal fan). If they were going down the Bitwig route or something (which is fine) or trying to force the old sterile PT studio "standard" I would start souring on it but that does not seem to be waht's going on... at ALL.
 
Whatever... I'm not a huge cash cow for the company by any means but so far I'm happy with the direction in general.
 
Now somewhat ON topic... I know you've likely tried the Vocal Align thingie on a guitar track. I mentioned in another thread how this seems like a good tool for maybe tightening up double guitar parts (especially leads). Any thoughts on that? I'm tight as hell when doubling (which I'm just realizing now) but not SO tight that a doubled crazy fast lead will sound like one axe (but I still want the sonic benefits of a doubled track). If this can just nudge out the slight discrepancies a little on single note rhythm riffs or leads that have been double properly that would be a HUGE bonus.
 
Cheers.
2015/01/14 17:05:36
Beepster
alewgro
Question:
 
If I buy the product for $499 up front/one payment, will I have a subscription?  Will I get any updates at all?  
 
Alewgro




Yup. One year's full subscription which includes updates for that full year... then you get to keep it all.
2015/01/14 17:06:11
yphs_mst
Too bad, the pricing structure doesn't work for me. As stated by Greeny in the very front pages of this thread, I agree with his points. I am also not a fan of paying monthly/annualy for a DAW since I usually use one version of DAW until the next 3-4 years (even without update patches). I will look at other alternatives (Steinberg or others). it has been a good run with Cakewalk!
2015/01/14 17:06:58
Beepster
djjhart@aol.com
As I under stand you get more for being a monthly subscriber.



Nope. If you pay in advance you get all the same stuff you would on a month to month basis (as far as I understand it).
2015/01/14 17:07:13
Anderton
Spencer
Ok I have a honest question and I expect a honest answer. The paint tool. Ok, cool stuff, but. Are you guys purposely going out of your way to avoid making an actual, proper DUPLICATE functionality? I want to instantly copy my selected 4 bars into the next 4 bars into the next 4 bars into the next 4 bars etc by pressing ONE KEY. No mouse.

 
How do you select the 4 bars without a mouse? Anyway, if it's a MIDI groove clip, click on the clip edge and drag for as many iterations as you want. If it's not a MIDI groove clip, type Ctrl+L first.
 
(If you want to get fancy, use Paste Special and you can specify the number of iterations, where they start, and even select a different track. I find that very handy when I want to double a part in certain sections.) 
2015/01/14 17:08:24
Anderton
Beepster
djjhart@aol.com
As I under stand you get more for being a monthly subscriber.



Nope. If you pay in advance you get all the same stuff you would on a month to month basis (as far as I understand it).




Correct, and you pay a little less if you pay upfront.
2015/01/14 17:09:06
Beepster
yphs_mst
Too bad, the pricing structure doesn't work for me. As stated by Greeny in the very front pages of this thread, I agree with his points. I am also not a fan of paying monthly/annualy for a DAW since I usually use one version of DAW until the next 3-4 years (even without update patches). I will look at other alternatives (Steinberg or others). it has been a good run with Cakewalk!




Greeny was mistaken in his assessment and said he was going to upgrade to Platinum. This is not SOLELY a subscription product. If you buy a full 12 month upgrade (one time payment) you keep everything fully licensed forever... just like buying the usual version upgrades of the past.
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