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2015/01/14 22:15:50
cclarry
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
 
Soft Enerji
Just trying to get a definite answer to the Addictive Drums question that has been asked. Will I be able to use my ADpaks, MIDIpaks and Kit Pieces that I already own and use in AD 1, with AD 2? 
 

 
This is a question for xlnaudio dudes.
 



I answered this question pages ago...

NO...AD1 kits do NOT work in AD2.  You have to purchase an ADpak Upgrade from XLN which updates
ALL currently owned ADPaks to the AD2 format.  Only the kits you choose when you purchase one 
of these will work in AD2....



2015/01/14 22:17:06
jayson
So I've decided to get the Platinum upgrade and reevaluate after a year.  I was considering upgrading to the Professional version as I don't use AD and have a lot of the other differences already in X3 Producer.  So one thing I would like to be assured of, as a Platinum member, is that the new content won't be special edition or lite versions requiring a further purchase to get the full version.  I'll be less likely to renew if that's the case.  
Also, I'm hoping Cakewalk might be more open to let members vote on possible new features maybe via the features and ideas forum.  
 
Cheers,
 
jayson
2015/01/14 22:17:11
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
SubSonic
 I likely will take advantage of the $149 "upgrade" price to this new service from X3 Producer, but I won't pay $199 a year for it thereafter.




""" Yea! Another $50 12 months from now just makes me write really dumb things today!"""
 
 
2015/01/14 22:18:31
ChazEd
yevster
ChazEd
yevster
You can pay that $200 a year later, two years later, etc. You can wait until CW puts out enough new features to be worth your next $200. This is different from before when the number of versions you were behind determined how much you paid to catch up.



Can you please point me to this info in the faq?


Yep. Copying&Pasting:

If I let my Membership expire after 12 months, can I renew it again later?

Yes, you can come back any time and pay the Renewal rate. If you choose to renew Monthly payments, you will need to complete an additional 12 consecutive months to permanently activate the latest update you have received.




Thanks!
 
So "renewal rate" means pay one price only (or x12), and not pay to "catch up".
 
That's what I didn't undestand.
 
Thank you for clarifying.
 
English is not my native tongue, so sorry about my dumb questions.
2015/01/14 22:24:52
Anderton
yevster
Cakewalk does not compete with Avid. 



I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree. It is no secret that while Pro Tools continues to be the dominant DAW, its dollar share continues to fall. I believe this is because Pro Tools lacks some features that are important to a new generation of users who want VST2 and VST3 compatibility, remixing options like SONAR's Matrix View or Ableton Live, the ability to edit stretchable files, stronger MIDI capabilities, ARA for Melodyne pitch correction, single window interface, no dongle, tablature, increased cost-effectiveness from bundled plug-ins, etc. 
 
Whenever someone was moving from 2" 24-track to computers I always recommended Pro Tools because its paradigm would be most familiar. For those who are new to recording, all DAWs are in competition with each other. For many of these people, Pro Tools is no longer essential or cost-effective, so they choose from whatever will fit their needs best. For them, often cost-effectiveness, workflow, and additional features that help with songwriting or specific genres of music are most important.
2015/01/14 22:25:29
Anderton
Trolleater
Vern C
Dave_ _lol is obviously a troll that never used Sonar legally and is upset because he'll have no way to pirate the next version.


if I could hake cakewalk.... lol why would I not hake a real DAW! I'm so mad because I have something that is suppose to work and it doesn't work, and now they are going to trash it for something new with out fixing the bugs!  




It works just fine. The problem is you don't.
2015/01/14 22:25:31
ChazEd
Blocked!
 
Bye troll!
2015/01/14 22:29:58
yevster
No argument that Pro Tools is backward feature-wise and in terms of the overall value proposition. My point was that without significant improvements in the reliability of the product, Sonar cannot compete for the Pro Tools users who are seeking greener pastures. I won't bother recounting all my nightmares with X3 here, but no commercial user with clients or deadlines would have put up with a quarter of what I had to go through.
2015/01/14 22:33:06
yevster
And speaking of competition, with Cubase 8 pro selling in GuitarCenter and Musician's Friend for $400 with an included MIDI controller, perhaps the $499 intro price tag is counterproductive.
2015/01/14 22:35:38
jodysimkins
Count me in. I have been upgrading since way back in the Cakewalk days and this is not much different from my standpoint. Moving to the SaaS model means we will likely see a much more constant stream of improvements, better QA, and faster responses when a bug appears. Just my opinion.
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