Well if you guys are happy to pay for features that we dont even have a clue about yet thats fine by me, I don't ask or expect everyone to agree with me you have the right to vote with your wallet just like I do.

Greeny
Yes something has changed, I pay the upgrade price, and dont get the updates right away. I dont know what I am buying how exactly is this better for me?

So you want updates before they are coded? That just not make sense.
 
I own X3. I'll pay $149 up front. I'll get updates as they are available for 12 months.
 
Simples.

so you agree I choose to buy the upgrade upfront and I have no idea what half the stuff I am buying is cos I will be drip fed it over 12 months that is exactly my point.

Ok, just to clarify... If I sign up for a month to month and the new version is messy enough that I feel like I'm going to wait on it... I can cancel, but I lose the new version.
 
If a few months down the road it seems like it's worth trying again, then I can go month to month again and I've got the software back.
 
If I keep going, after 12 months, then I've got all of the current features at the 12 month point even if I cancel. Now what about consecutive month 13, 14, 15? Do I "own" any current updates for every month past the 12th month? Or will it be another year before new features are owned without a monthly membership?

Greeny

Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]

Greeny
This stinks. I shall be voting with my wallet, hello steinberg.

I sense a recurring theme starting here. Any chance you can share what aspect you're not a fan of? Maybe we can help to clarify? If not, the feedback would be helpful for us either way.

I want to buy a daw, I want to know what I am buying when I buy it, I dont want to be teased tyvm. When I part with my hard earned cash I want to know what I am buying. You dont buy a steering wheel with the promise of a car in parts over the next 12 months do you? No! So why should we be doing this with our daws?

Sounds like you prefer the annual upgrade model. Buy the current software and then wait 12 or more months to get new stuff and pay again. What we are offering right now is new features plus 12 more months of new features, updates, content, videos, etc. I would think it would be a win-win for you but having a hard time understanding why you this is bad. 

Greeny
Well if you guys are happy to pay for features that we dont even have a clue about yet thats fine by me, I don't ask or expect everyone to agree with me you have the right to vote with your wallet just like I do.

What about the new version's features that were listed do you think you're not going to get when you pay the upgrade fee (whether monthly or up front)?
 
Assuming you bought any version in the past as an upgrade you got all of those features, right? Same here.
 
And, CW is proposing that they will release new content and patches as they are ready. You won't have to wait a full year (or longer as in the case of X3->"X4" for new content or feature.
 
 

Greeny
Well if you guys are happy to pay for features that we dont even have a clue about yet thats fine by me, I don't ask or expect everyone to agree with me you have the right to vote with your wallet just like I do.

Greeny, please read this page https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Whats-New

bapu

Greeny
Yes something has changed, I pay the upgrade price, and dont get the updates right away. I dont know what I am buying how exactly is this better for me?

So you want updates before they are coded? That just not make sense.
 
I own X3. I'll pay $149 up front. I'll get updates as they are available for 12 months.
 
Simples.

No I want to know what I am buying at the time I pay, is it that hard to understand? I dont see the option to buy the update as it is and not be drip fed stuff over 12 months, I am not seeing an option to pay less and not be drip fed stuff, if I see that option I have no issue.
 

theheliosequence
Ok, just to clarify... If I sign up for a month to month and the new version is messy enough that I feel like I'm going to wait on it... I can cancel, but I lose the new version.
 
If a few months down the road it seems like it's worth trying again, then I can go month to month again and I've got the software back.
 
If I keep going, after 12 months, then I've got all of the current features at the 12 month point even if I cancel. Now what about consecutive month 13, 14, 15? Do I "own" any current updates for every month past the 12th month? Or will it be another year before new features are owned without a monthly membership?

You wil continue to keep everything you own after the 12th month. So say you continue to renew for 6 more months and then decide for whatever reason that you don't want to be a member, you'd keep everything you received up until month 18. However, once you opt out, you'd have to do another 12 month membership or pay upfront. 

Here is the question - will I be able to download/update if my main system is not connected to the internet???