cparmerlee
Is there anything that limits this specifically to vocals?  For example, if you are tracking a sax section in a big band, with separate mics on each sax, could this plug-in tighten the timing of attacks?  I assume there would need to be some ability to ignore crosstalk below a certain threshold.

The VocalSync DSP and algorithms are optimized for voice so it won't necessarily detect onsets for other instruments as well. However it could do a reasonable job with wind instruments if they are not highly processed.

Beepster
How long will we have to purchase the full 12 month subscriptions before we lose our X3 Producer upgrade status and then what kind of scheme do you have for after that.

I think the Versions page is pretty clear on that, together with what I posted above :
 
   "I own an older version of SONAR Producer :  $49 or $4.99/m  |  $99 or $9.99/m  |  $199 or $19.99/m"
 
So wait a year or two and pay 200$ for Platinum.  Or less if there's a sale.
 
 

Beepster
Hi, Karyn. I don't think that's exactly right unless we've all been horribly mistaken. From what you are saying if I don't buy a 12 month membership for 6 months (as an X3 Pro owner) I would somehow be paying for those 6 months retroactively. ......

I don't believe they'll be increasing the cost if you drop a single or a few months every now and then,  I'm talking about people taking long breaks.
 
If the renewal fee is not increased (after a long break) then you could halve your overall cost simply by doing an annual renewal every other year and skipping the one in-between.  You still get to keep the software (you did a full year renewal) and when you renew 24 months later you get the very latest version again (as if you'd been paying all along) and you get to keep it. This cuts your renewal fee in half.
 
If that is the case, all those who pay every year are going to be paying for those who pay every two years...
 
 

Paul P

Beepster
How long will we have to purchase the full 12 month subscriptions before we lose our X3 Producer upgrade status and then what kind of scheme do you have for after that.

I think the Versions page is pretty clear on that, together with what I posted above :
 
   "I own an older version of SONAR Producer :  $49 or $4.99/m  |  $99 or $9.99/m  |  $199 or $19.99/m"
 
So wait a year or two and pay 200$ for Platinum.  Or less if there's a sale.
 
 

But after this year there will no longer be versions it will be a start/end subscription time frame. That's where the confusion comes in. Is the cut off going to be something like Sub start date Jan 2015/End Jan 2016 at which point you have until Jan 2017 to reup before you are considered owning an "older version"? I don't think that has been defined.
 
And just to keep folks from tossing the price charts at me (which is appreciated but I don't want to waste anyopne's time unnecessarily) I actually spent all day yesterday scouring and posting that stuff for others. The thread has advanced since I logged off last night though so maybe some new info has been posted. If so then that would be good.
 
Really though I was just hoping for a Baker to chime in so I'm not mucking up the thread further.
 
Seriously, though... thanks guys. I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm just trying to hammer out this one last detail that's confusing me.

Karyn

Beepster
Hi, Karyn. I don't think that's exactly right unless we've all been horribly mistaken. From what you are saying if I don't buy a 12 month membership for 6 months (as an X3 Pro owner) I would somehow be paying for those 6 months retroactively. ......

I don't believe they'll be increasing the cost if you drop a single or a few months every now and then,  I'm talking about people taking long breaks.
 
If the renewal fee is not increased (after a long break) then you could halve your overall cost simply by doing an annual renewal every other year and skipping the one in-between.  You still get to keep the software (you did a full year renewal) and when you renew 24 months later you get the very latest version again (as if you'd been paying all along) and you get to keep it. This cuts your renewal fee in half.
 
If that is the case, all those who pay every year are going to be paying for those who pay every two years...
 
 

Yup. Exactly what I'm saying and why I'm asking. I haven't seen cut off dates mentioned. I'm assuming the Bakers have a plan for this. Earlier in the thread I briefly grumbled about the higher upgrade cost until I realize that this could be done so maybe the slackers were factored into the upgrade price and they are working on the premise that by staying up to date the benefit is you just get to use the program sooner.
 
Edit: Which BTW would make me very happy because I am on a serious budget and I'm not particularly impatient when it comes to these things. It would just means the value is much higher if you are willing to wait and if you are not well then it's not like you are getting ripped off because you get to use the goodies sooner than a cheapo would. Like right now I'm DYING to get my hands on MixRecall but it ain't gonna happen for a while so sucks to be me. lol

VS 700 Owners are still wondering about compatibility and/or what may becoming down the pike - new controllers???

Karyn
 
If you have a break in your membership and wish to re-start it, you should expect to pay more (at least initially) for your renewal to cover the cost of all the updates you will get that were published while you were not a member.  
 
 

 
Why should I pay for something I didn´t use?

Karyn
 
 
If that is the case, all those who pay every year are going to be paying for those who pay every two years...
 
 

But those who pay every two years will not benefit from the last year´s new features & bug fixes.
 
 

ChazEd

Karyn
 
 
If that is the case, all those who pay every year are going to be paying for those who pay every two years...
 
 

But those who pay every two years will not benefit from the last year´s new features & bug fixes.
 

 
Actually yes they would unless they removed something which I doubt would happen very often. This is now a perpetually evolving entity based on the backbone of X3.

I'm getting the feeling I've asked yet another uncomfortable question. Sorry. I know that topic might be touchy due to the potential of slowing down initial sales. A timeline is kind of important for me though because I have to budget or IDK... knock off a liquor store or something (just kidding) so maybe if a Baker would prefer to PM me?

ChazEd

Karyn
 
If you have a break in your membership and wish to re-start it, you should expect to pay more (at least initially) for your renewal to cover the cost of all the updates you will get that were published while you were not a member.  
 
 

 
Why should I pay for something I didn´t use?

Because when you start paying again you still get it.  So you could cut the cost in half by doing an annual payment every 2 years and still be up to date for 1 of each 2 years.
 
If everyone does that Cakewalk's revenue would be halved.
 
Edit:  There has to be a cutoff point where a "long" break in membership results in an increased renewal fee for the first renewal period.  Just as skipping a version update in the past resulted in a higher upgrade cost.