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  • Some Basic Sonar Needs
2015/01/27 13:17:21
jlemon2
As a professional recording software, Sonar needs to be (above all) crash proof.
In the event of a sonar crash at present, Sonar loses all soundcard drivers and
if you are going to continue to record, a total reboot of your computer is needed.
There is no recovery from the famous (white page).
Internal sends from one channel to another as are allowed on good mixing boards, is long overdue as well.
"Heart of the engine" type of improvements are needed, not more gadgets and more complications.
At present, Sonar is defined by clutter. As complicated as most elaborate mixing boards appear, they are
very straight forward in use.
Audio is not rocket science. Generally speaking, the more it is messed with the worse it gets.
 
Joe Lemon
2015/01/27 13:23:38
Sanderxpander
I cannot corroborate your experience at all. If Sonar crashes on me (which is not often) I just reopen and continue.

If you need to reboot, that points to a driver issue. What interface are you using?
2015/01/27 13:36:24
Mesh
jlemon2
As a professional recording software, Sonar needs to be (above all) crash proof.
In the event of a sonar crash at present, Sonar loses all soundcard drivers and
if you are going to continue to record, a total reboot of your computer is needed.
There is no recovery from the famous (white page).
Internal sends from one channel to another as are allowed on good mixing boards, is long overdue as well.
"Heart of the engine" type of improvements are needed, not more gadgets and more complications.
At present, Sonar is defined by clutter. As complicated as most elaborate mixing boards appear, they are
very straight forward in use.
Audio is not rocket science. Generally speaking, the more it is messed with the worse it gets.
 
Joe Lemon


Your contradicting/confusing comments incline me to think that you're a troll.
Please give some specifics on your system as well as your actual issue(s).
 
2015/01/27 13:41:12
mixmkr
joined an hour ago to bash.  Pass by this joker and people that have similar comments, post totals, and join dates.
2015/01/27 13:42:56
Living Room Rocker
You can always post a problem here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Problem-Reports-f77.aspx
And if you have an idea or feature request, you can post those here:  http://forum.cakewalk.com/Features-Ideas-f76.aspx
 
Kind regards,
 
Living Room Rocker
2015/01/27 13:52:15
brundlefly
I agree with other responses here; not much of what you've written is supportable, if anything.
 
In my experience, SONAR is highly crash-resistant; nothing is "crash proof". A SONAR hang or crash generally will not cause a interface driver issue, but the reverse can often be true, and may well be in your case. And SONAR is way more than a mixing board; if you strip out everything that would not be found on a mixing console, SONAR would be no more "cluttered" than said console other than due to the obvious realestate limitations.
 
Beyond this, there can be no useful response to such a laundry list of unsupported statements and claims.
 
 
2015/01/27 14:12:51
Beepster
Plenty of other DAWs on the market for you to choose from. Sonar does what it does and does it well. There are certain things it does not do and it does require a stable system for the best performance. If you want it to do the few specific things it is not currently programmed to do or you can't be bothered to run it on an appropriate system with the appropriate support hardware then it just may not be the program for you. For me, as guitarist and composer X3 works fabulously and I look forward to eventually getting the new version.
 
I realize that with your one post and negative comments with no real question that you are likely here to just stir up the proverbial poop but there are many of us here who will take the time to correct your slander and misdirection so others looking for REAL opinions from REAL users can get accurate info.
 
To sum up for those folks...
 
No, Sonar does not allow channels to be routed to one another directly like other programs who use tracks as busses but there are plenty of ways to simulate this routing within the program. Also I, personally, much prefer the strict distinction between busses and tracks. I find it much easier to manage and keep track of as opposed to the wacky schemes the more traditional DAWs have. That said I kind of see Cake potentially moving toward adding these types of functions now that they have starting screwing around with the Sends and Inserts portion of the program and the fact there have been some requests here on the forum for such functionality.
 
Yes, Sonar tends to be a little more finicky than SOME of the other DAWs and you will want to have a solid system to run it with a good interface with good drivers (I recommend Focusrite for your interface). However the program has become MUCH more stable since the release of X3 and it looks like the new Sonar is going to really hammer out the last of those little oddities. That said I have been using X3 for over a year now and have not experienced anything significant in regards to stability issues like in the past so that repurtation seems to be a thing of the past. You just need a decent system, set things up properly and not be a total spazz with the program.
 
As far as all the bells and whistles... it truly is an all in one package and I personally LOVE that about Sonar. If I had gone with my original DAW of choice I would have had to spend three times as much buying supportive software (instruments, effects, etc) to be able to have a full creative set up and in fact the DAW itself cost almost 3 times as much. I took the gamble and it has paid of over and over and over again.
 
I am not a "fanbois". I would not say all this if I thought Sonar was crappy in any way (and I've made posts on this very forum abotu past grievances). It is a very powerful and useful tool for me personally and I've been trying out some alternatives recently. Those other tools have their percs but they do NOT even come close to Sonar for my personal needs and workflow. I can do pretty much everything I need to using Sonar and the included tools and honestly as an artist I enjoy the process more than in the other programs which I find kind of stale and boring.
 
So there's an honest review from a real user who does real work regularly with Sonar as opposed to a spam troll trying to flood the intertubes with the lame old stereotypes about the program (which I had heard repeatedly before becoming a user and STILL hear from folks who haven't even used the program for YEARS).
 
If you are starting out try out all the demos of all the DAWs, compare the feature sets and pricepoints, figure out what your computer and hardware can handle and most importantly what YOU need the DAW to do and make your decisions from there. If you just need to get your tracks into your computer... maybe the alternatives are better. If you want a full production suite with every instrument and effect you could ever need... then ya, Sonar is worth it and is very cost effective.
 
Cheers.
2015/01/27 14:20:53
Mesh
Beeps, the OP didn't deserve all this effort you put into it. They most likely just get a kick out of all this.......and move on to the next "victim".  
2015/01/27 14:23:12
Beepster
PS: Don't consider that a "bite" Mr. Lemon. It is a fact based neutralization of your erroneous and highly suspect comments. You did not waste my time or make me angry. In actuality you should be the one who is angry because you just wasted your time (or the time/money of whoever may have paid you to post that).
 
That is another huge benefit of being a Cakewalker. Quick, accurate and honest information. The community will not only help with support issues much faster, friendlier and more accurately than other communities you can essentially learn how to produce music from start to finish just by hanging around this place without being attacked or insulted... even if you DON'T use Sonar.
 
2015/01/27 14:27:12
Anderton
Mesh
Beeps, the OP didn't deserve all this effort you put into it. They most likely just get a kick out of all this.......and move on to the next "victim".  



Many times, I write responses not for the OP but for those who might be reading the thread. Other forumites do the same and Beepster is one of them. What he wrote will be helpful to anyone who is considering SONAR, sees the OP, and then finds out the reality of the situation. They will most definitely appreciate his efforts! And they'll also find out what makes these forums so helpful.
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