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I was busy and just now returned to this thread but I wanted to post this after the 4th or 5th response.
Just because someone only has a few posts and has some questions or trepidation or even brash statements about Sonar does not in my book make them an automatic troll.
I have used Sonar since 7 and I agree with most of the OP.
With a new release there is going to be trolls and  I have seen a few (mostly the same guy...hi Dan). But even Dan said some things that I cannot disagree with.
There is also going to be some legit people that are either new to the forum or new to Sonar.
I can see a newbie becoming frustrated to the point of sounding troll-like.
 
BTW, I have gotten more white screens in Platinum than all other versions combined. I am not sure what is going on there. I have not had time to chase down the cause but I am not really doing anything unusual compared to X3. Audio is fine, same settings as in X3.
In particular, unfreezing AD2 tracks seems to cause the white screen most of the time. Not sure about other synths.
If I figure out what it is, I will start a new thread.
 

I feel bad that I too had written a post in defence of the OP in principle. I deleted it and left a full stop because to be honest I couldn't be bothered getting into some drawn out argument where someone now feels they have to justify their comments and back and forth. But not everyone with a low post count complaining in an unapproved fashion is a troll. When this guy came back it was only to show his dismay. I don't blame for pulling his head in. I'm not going to say anything more specific because I don't want to focus on any individual in this thread so I'm leaving it there and won't be drawn into more discussion. This is so that if someone else new read this forum they don't immediately conclude that if they have negative comments or feel frustrated that they don't think everyone will call them a troll. Maybe the guy is a troll but not on the basis of the 2 posts he's made in this thread.

I can't tell if someone owns SONAR or not. But given there was a thread on the same page where he posted about a plug-in created by a SONAR user that allows for internal sends ("ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together and give a warm forum round of applause for...Silktone!!), and using sidechaining to do it has been discussed, one gets the sense he hadn't put a lot of effort into trying to solve his problems with SONAR and his post didn't do anything to dissuade someone from that opinion. The statement about "clutter" shows he's probably not hip to the "D" command, screensets, etc.
 
What people often forget is that SONAR has all the functionality of a quarter of a million dollar studio from not that long ago (less the sweet mic locker and acoustic treatment, of course). No one expected to walk into Record Plant and record an album without an engineer, a tape op, and a producer. Now people with little experience are trying to navigate a system of equal or greater complexity, in the environment of a computer that was not designed primarily with artistic purposes and real-time streaming in mind.
 
"White screens" happen for a variety of reasons but in my experience it's due to too much stuff going on at once, like Windows booting up, scanning for viruses, etc. It's the same principle as tape machines. Until braking systems got good, you were always better off hitting Stop before hitting Rewind or Fast Forward. 

And yes, SONAR is not perfect in terms of stability. But sadly, neither are any of the other programs I own, and I suspect a lot has to do with Windows and driver interactions. 
 
However...I work my software very hard on long sessions and can go days, and sometimes weeks, without any problems at all. But it took a while to get there, like finding out the importance of graphics driver updates, the perils of the phantom "HD Audio" driver, and the need to disable UWTs (Useless Windows Things). I figure I'm paying the same dues as tape recorder maintenance back in the day...except tape recorder maintenance took longer 

Just been away from my computer. Heard there's a red under every bed, so I've been off checking. Didn't find any.

Has anything happened.

I think the rule of thumb is that if someone comes in there just to say that SONAR sucks, it will likely elicit a chilly reception because most users here have figured out SONAR and get things done with it. If someone comes in here saying they're having problems and express a desire to fix those problems, they get a warm response no matter how negative they are.

I can see the point of taking exception to the OP's post and the reaction it got. Instead why not look at Beepsters posts that were outstanding and turned a very bad thread into a winning thread. 
 
I think we can dwell on the negative or we can see something really much better. Its up to us to decide.

Beepster
......another huge benefit of being a Cakewalker. Quick, accurate and honest information. The community will not only help with support issues much faster, friendlier and more accurately than other communities you can essentially learn how to produce music from start to finish just by hanging around this place without being attacked or insulted... even if you DON'T use Sonar. 

I'm presently trying to migrate from another DAW to Sonar (had X3 Pro for a couple of months now Platinum).
As anyone who has done or tried it (migration) will know, it can be a very daunting prospect. I was motivated to try Sonar by users in another very friendly music forum (not my DAW's forum) who are often Sonar users.
Of course I am finding it difficult because I know how to do most things in my other DAW and so I'm usually drawn back because I can probably do it quicker there.
So... I'm saying all that because I'm finding that what Beepster said is true. Only a few posts so far but friendly helpful answers each time. I was absolutely "stunned" at the response I received when I redeemed my code for Platinum on "release day" from JRR , went to register at Cakewalk, internet died mid way, code registered then swallowed by the WWW, registration page at Cakewalk said it's already registered , but nothing in command center,
bupkis, nada, zilch. Man what a bummer, waiting days for the release now nothing.
So I asked as a last desperate resort, not really expecting a result, in this forum, in a thread "modded" by a staff member, was there anything I could do on my end other than raising a ticket and waiting. Not a problem, fixed,  issue solved on Cakewalk end, now happy customer playing with new toy a short time later. Just a fabulous response, I was amazed.
What is keeping me persevering in the difficult process of switching to Sonar, is what I perceive about this community, I like what I see, so I'm still pushing on in the learning process. I don't feel I have to continue because I have my monies worth from Addictive Drums & a reduced price upgrade to Melodyne editor, so I can walk away happy, but this looks like a good place to create music.
By the way, if you want to see some real rants about "what something needs" then just take a visit to the Steinberg forum. No software is ever perfect, if it were then it probably means that it has stopped developing and then who would really want that.
Keep up the good work.
 

Beachboy, I too migrated from other software when SONAR first came out and never regretted it. There's a saying that "the DAW you like is the DAW you know" and it will take you some time to become facile with SONAR. Even those using 8.5 found the transition to the X-series difficult. However, Once you know all the little tips and tricks, you'll find SONAR is unique in its workflow. I have never been so productive since X3 came out, it realized the potential of the X-series and Platinum just builds on it.
 
The only drawback I've found is that SONAR is very picky about its Windows environment. Its code has hooks deep into the operating system, which is one reason why a Mac version will probably never appear (although of course, it runs great under Boot Camp). To SONAR, a Windows computer is like a combination lock - when all the tumblers are in place, it opens up. But that's why this forum is so great - because odds are someone has experienced whatever problem you have, and can offer a solution or a workaround.
 
There's a reason why this forum is considered one of SONAR's outstanding "features"!

mudgel
Just been away from my computer. Heard there's a red under every bed, so I've been off checking. Didn't find any.

Has anything happened.

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