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  • Can you narrow the stereo field in sonar Platinum RESOLVED (p.3)
2015/01/29 16:36:23
perfectprint
All the plugin suites and collections in C3 should list every product they include on their individual info panes so everyone knows which installer installs what.
 
Also dont forget about the search bar at the top of the plugin browser if you want to quickly find a specific plugin. 
2015/01/29 19:35:02
Dave Modisette
Gerry
Many thanks one and all I have been going blind in here 
 

 
I will now look in the blue tubes bundle. Although I cannot think why something so basic should be so difficult to find LOL. I will make a feature request me thinks.
 
Wouldn't it be nice to have something like this
 

 
or this

 


Yes, I prefer it to be visible.  Especially on the console where it will make it obvious which tracks are stereo.  Meaning, mono tracks would only have a single pan knob.  But I don't think this is likely to happen as it would likely play havoc with legacy projects. 
 
FWIW, Studio One and Samplitude only show a single pan control, as well so SONAR isn't alone.
2015/01/29 19:46:56
yevster
A quick story about Channel Tools: I was working on some spoken stage audio recently, recorded with two condenser mics on opposite sides of a performance space. When using Channel Tools to narrow the stereo field, I noticed significant harsheness caused, most likely, by phase cancellation. Because if a sound from the left mic takes time to travel to the right mic, and some of that left channel is mixed straight into the right channel without the delay, phasing issues (and therefore harshness) may result. 
 
I ended up using Izotope Ozone's stereo imager for the job, and the result sounded much, much cleaner. Maybe it's because Ozone can detect and compensate for such delays. Or maybe it's because I did most of the extreme centering on lower frequency bands, and just did a partial stereo field reduction on the upper bands.
 
The moral: if you have Ozone, I'd suggest using that instead.
2015/01/29 19:59:39
Anderton
yevster
A quick story about Channel Tools: I was working on some spoken stage audio recently, recorded with two condenser mics on opposite sides of a performance space. When using Channel Tools to narrow the stereo field, I noticed significant harsheness caused, most likely, by phase cancellation. Because if a sound from the left mic takes time to travel to the right mic, and some of that left channel is mixed straight into the right channel without the delay, phasing issues (and therefore harshness) may result. 



Channel Tools has independent delays for each channel that you can adjust down to the individual sample. You can also flip polarity independently. The advantage of Ozone is that it's multiband. I use it for vinyl prep to drag the bass down to mono while leaving everything else as is.
2015/01/30 04:36:19
Gerry
OK you hit the nail on the head Scook
 
scook
Channel Tools in the Engineering FX Suite, maybe it did not get installed.




I suppose I could raise the question why did Command Center state installation complete when infact it was not the case? Uninstall was fine hower the reinstall would stop as in period at 77.56% after two attempts and three hours I called it a night.

 
Maybe heavy traffic was the reason.
 
This morning success and it fully installed all products and here is what I was looking for just to prove it

 
Hi Mod Bod no big deal just got so used to having it at hand in the mixing consul without having to put a vst in but certainly not a deal breaker.
 
Lastly I will use Ozone which has for a long time been my swiss army knife plugin not sure that that says a lot for Platinum though but there you go. Perhaps Ozone should be bundled in LOL
 
Lastly many thanks for all the help and I will mark this as resolved.
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