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paulo
..., but I see no compelling reason to install the "new" version yet and as it's 64-bit only that also gives me a problem with some 32 bit plug-ins that I still like to use, ...
 

You can use 32-bit plugins over the bit-bridge with CbB, as this is possible with the last Splat version. But I don't know, probably that is not what you want ...
 
Marc

I've never managed to get 64 bit Platinum to recognize the existence of IK Miroslav Philharmonik or Sampletank 2.5 (as two examples OTOH) for whatever reason. Some other FX plug ins that I still often use lack the "W" option to automate the parameters when used in 64 bit version, so it has always just been easier for me to use the 32 bit version of Sonar even though the OS is 64 bit as everything still works that way.
 
I'll carry on the way I always have until the "new" version offers me a compelling reason to change that.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

Kev999
Wifi doesn't work well in my studio, due to obstacles between the room and the router. When I need a connection I temporarily connect via a 20 metre ethernet cable running along a corridor and diagonally across the lounge room. It's always a bit inconvenient and it's also a trip hazard, so I only ever set it up for short periods whenever there is no alternative, e.g. for authorizations. I prefer to download installation files on a different computer in another room.

Have you tried Powerline ethernet? They are quite reliable these days.

 
I didn't really want to spend that sort of money just for the sake of an occasional download.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Professionals don't use the internet? :)
Even if you have an objection to having a permanent connection nothing stopping you from having a temporary network connection available to a computer. A cheap wireless dongle or a network cable can do the trick for just when you need to do an update or activation. This is a far better solution than having hardware dongles like some software mandates.

Wow, that's completely missing the boat.
 
My point is, I do NOT want a tool in my studio (especially the main brain of it) that needs to go online to get permission from ANYBODY to be used. Period. If my hard drive crashes and I need to reinstall Windows and Sonar can I do it if internet is down?? Or Bandlab's server is down?
 
Hardware dongles are a terrible solution too. It's just hilarious to me that manufacturers make it so that pirates have it easier than paying customers.
 
Sorry, I hope for the best, I truly do, but I'm skeptical.
 
R

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Professionals don't use the internet? :)
Even if you have an objection to having a permanent connection nothing stopping you from having a temporary network connection available to a computer. A cheap wireless dongle or a network cable can do the trick for just when you need to do an update or activation. This is a far better solution than having hardware dongles like some software mandates.

That's not my issue. My issue is that I live in a rural area where internet is expensive and unreliable. My house also happens to be in a sort of dead spot where cellular coverage is iffy. I have to drive 17 miles to get any kind of reliable connection at any kind of speed.

Breaking down my desktop, packing it up in the car, driving into Cypress and setting it up somewhere just to activate a piece of software would be just a bit inconvenient.

What does anyone really expect, it's been given away and one requirement is an internet connection. I wonder how many Bandlab User's just use their phones and never connect will try to get their copy too find out you need more than the phone, probably a few them will ask for an offline option. Not that big of a hassle really given what is on offer.

I look at it as this, if you want it than get connected, at least that is how it is coming across by Noel's replies.

Being as my rig is offline and staying that way I will have to pass on this offer, great value for those that are connected though .

I don't have internet at my house, period. My only internet access is my Android. The way the offline process worked before Bandlab took over was perfect in my opinion. I was SO excited to learn that my favorite DAW was going to live on under Bandlab, and was looking forward to using the new Cakewalk! If there's no offline activation though, it looks like I'll be using Sonar Platinum for as long as I can. Meng and Noel have every right to set it up however they like, and I understand that I'm in the minority, but I'm definitely disappointed to learn that I'll be left out. Best of luck to them, and I hope they eventually bring back offline activation.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Professionals don't use the internet? :)
Even if you have an objection to having a permanent connection nothing stopping you from having a temporary network connection available to a computer. A cheap wireless dongle or a network cable can do the trick for just when you need to do an update or activation. This is a far better solution than having hardware dongles like some software mandates.

I could name a few multi-billion dollar companies that have such restricted access that would prevent a user from installing and authorizing the software.  
 
Can you explain the reason why the free software requires this type of authorization and traffic over the internet specific to the computer that it is loading on?  Outside of data mining and potentially unsecure updates and data transmission, I seem to be missing something.
 
(Note, I'm very thankful and pleased with a lot of what I'm seeing here, but I think there are legitimate scenarios that are being over looked).  
 
Any company that wants to stay in business should have IT security as a major concern in today's market place and software evaluation and deployment is a critical area.  

Do not discount the use of the internet as a marketing/monitoring tool. A lot with this initial installer is taken on blind faith, and even the announcement stressed using BL loops. I suspect the internet will become a crucial component of this new DAW.

eikelbijter
Wow, that's completely missing the boat.
 
My point is, I do NOT want a tool in my studio (especially the main brain of it) that needs to go online to get permission from ANYBODY to be used. Period. If my hard drive crashes and I need to reinstall Windows and Sonar can I do it if internet is down?? Or Bandlab's server is down?
 
Hardware dongles are a terrible solution too. It's just hilarious to me that manufacturers make it so that pirates have it easier than paying customers.
 
Sorry, I hope for the best, I truly do, but I'm skeptical.

Seriously, what you can use without dongle or on-line activation? As a DAW you can use Ardour, Sonar X3- or Reaper. As plug-ins only free or old.
 
Note that off-line activation is still computer bound, if hardware crash you will need to be on-line again (to get new off-line activation...)
 
But I agree with the impression... Declared as "free" (not "free as long as...", not "free for the moment...") software should have hardware and Internet independent activation. Without that, "the measure of freedom is the length of your chain" (famous Russian satiric, from a dialog between two dogs...) and published here not long time ago "‘If you’re not paying for it; you are the product"

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Professionals don't use the internet? :)
Even if you have an objection to having a permanent connection nothing stopping you from having a temporary network connection available to a computer. A cheap wireless dongle or a network cable can do the trick for just when you need to do an update or activation. This is a far better solution than having hardware dongles like some software mandates.

Hi Noel! There are situation when you can't use internet ... My studio computer rely on offline activations and dongles as the studio is located in an old bomb shelter with no connection with the outside world, I have to leave the bunker just to make cell phone call ... so my only option to install the Cakewalk by BandLab I would be to disconnect the computer and transport it to another location. A bit inconvenient ... so an offline activation would be most welcome.
 
By the way, it installed perfectly on my old Win 7 laptop and it actually feels more "snappy", loads a bit faster 
 
Regards, Thomas