ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth

Bipity Bopity Bumpity. You know this is getting quite tiresome.

Take it easy mate - let me help out.

Pretty good firts try on the SH7, I'm still fighting with the the idea of upgrading to a more, eh hem, supported cakewalk product. The wife gave me a little spending money and I have enough left to cover the new SHS XL if I want. How is the drum program it ships with?

Back to your song, I've allways liked those grand melodramatic kinds of songs. I love your choice of synth sounds! Your guitar is pretty good too, nice licks. I do, for some reason want to speed the whole thing up and sing the lyrics to Journey's "Seperate Ways" though.

Thanks for your kind words about the tune CJ

That's just a rough mix still - I keep meaning to spend a bit of time polishing it up a bit.

As to HS7, check out THIS THREAD over in the HS forum before you buy mate - a lot of us have found that the program is a bit of a disappointment, it's a more user-friendly and stripped back program than its predecessor, HS6. Cake seem to be squarely aiming the new look HS to newer users it seems.

In fairness to Cakewalk, they've listened to our complaints and they're currently running a special offer upgrade price for HS users on SONAR 8 Studio Edition; HS6 users can upgrade for $99 while those of us with HS7 get the upgrade for just $39.

As to the drums, HS7 and HS7XL come with Cakewalk's Studio Instruments drums, most commentators see this as a downgrade from Session Drummer 2, which came with HS6XL.

It might be worth doing a bit of research before you get HS7XL CJ, just to make certain it has the features you want.

If there's anything specific on HS7XL you want to know, ask away and I'll try to help.

Steve

Thanks Steve for the info. I would really like to get sonar but I don't want to spend the money on just the DAW, I have a couple other toys I want as well. I was kind of hoping that I could incrementally upgrade to sonar producer but if it's worth the extra $$ to do it now I may have to rethink the SHS7 option though. I'll have to get Doc's opinion on the whole matter and maybe even, GULP, spend some time in the SONAR room. Or I could go to the dentist for the same sensory input.

Doc, you want to pipe in on this?

ARRGHH!!! I just went to set up a nice picture of a guy in a dentist chair and freggin IS blocked the site. I may have to break down and actually do work around here just to stem the boredom!!

CJ,

My thought is it might be better to move up to S8SE after hearing all the downsides to SHS7 and SHS7XL. It's hard to say how long the upgrade offer from SHS7 will last. If I were in your shoes I'd put the cash to the side and get S8. It's worth the investment and the improved performance that it provides. In either case I'd wait a bit though. There are still a few outstanding items that seem to need a bit of sorting out thought I believe release 8.0.1 have addressed. I expect to see update 8.0.2 sometime in the future. As you say you might want to go lurk in the Sonar SE & PE room.

Doc,

Your probably right that I should have waited but I didn't and done did it, SHS7XL. I'll miss out on the upgrade to SONAR 8 but I can go that route in a year or two I guess. My main consideration was that I want something with a drum VSTi and I'd have to go producer to get that with SONAR. My other choice was to get SONAR Studio and then buy Toontracks but I just cheked and everyone seems to have brought out their latest versions with the included price hike. SHS is simply teh best value for me at this time. I was pleasently suprised to see that the Bakers responded to the complaints so quickly and in a way that seems to have satisfied most of the forum members. I'll keep you guys up to date on how this all works out. Thanks again for the advice. I'll have to start spending some time over in the SHS room to see what I've gotten myself into.

CJ, don't get me wrong, HS7XL is a great program - it's just not the same as HS6! One big improvement it has over HS6 is in the audio engine, which shares some of the enhancements currently being employed in SONAR 8.

Cake are taking a slightly different approach to their mid-range product which means a lot of the features that HS users have taken for granted have been stripped out - you can customise GT to a much greater extent!

The offer to upgrade from HS7 to SONAR8 Studio Edition runs until 27th November and costs just $39 - if p&p costs aren't prohibitive, I'd say that would be $39 extremely well spent CJ! I'm certainly going to SONAR8, but I'm hoping Cake might allow the upgrade to Producer Edition in one direct step, as opposed to having to upgrade twice.

Like I said mate, let me know if there are any specifics with HS7XL you need to know.

Steve

Strummy,

Stepping up to S8? I'm envious. Right now my funds are tied up in a DAW construction project to be ready for S8PE when I purchase the update. Purpose built PCs seem to be quite expensive these days.
Here's the chassis I've started with. Motherboard arrives today. Woohoo!

Doc, can you help me out with something i don't understand. Maybe its just the words, but what does a bus do and why use the word bus? The same for envelope. Please forgive my dumbness. Thank you!

ORIGINAL: stratmanforever

Doc, can you help me out with something i don't understand. Maybe its just the words, but what does a bus do and why use the word bus? The same for envelope. Please forgive my dumbness. Thank you!

If you haven't already followed the link I put in your other thread Bill, Robert's excellent buss tutorial is the first post in this very thread.