I just noticed that you can assign the bus output to any available hardware out as well. Has anyone tried using this to rote use external effects? I don't think that GT3 has latency compensation so that could be a problem though.

Not if you use some of Steve's MUGS.

Actually Lexicon offers several VST like outboard effects as does UAD. The latter using it's own DSP. The Lexicon stuff can be had for between $200 and $400 USD while the UAD stuff is certainly $1000+.

ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth

Not if you use some of Steve's MUGS.

Actually Lexicon offers several VST like outboard effects as does UAD. The latter using it's own DSP. The Lexicon stuff can be had for between $200 and $400 USD while the UAD stuff is certainly $1000+.

Gotcha!

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The standard fee is 1 keg of M&B mild per letter.

A quick calculation shows you owe me 4 kegs.

The current exchange rate is 3 kegs + 1 pint of Gunness = 4 kegs of M&B mild.

Neat 'eh?

Now we are all square.






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Strummy, I was merely letting CJ know that he would have to use your invention. which in essence he is liable for any royalties owed if he so desires to use your aforementioned invention. There fore I am not liable for any sums in Royalties owed to you. And you still owe me 3 kegs and 2 pints.

Now regarding the har-bal, drop me a line with what seems to ail it and I will see what I can do to help you out. An ale for an ail.

Serious question:
My understanding is that latency compensation would only be an issue with software effects. It's basically a "look ahead" function.
If you are using external hardware effects, would this even be an issue?

Doc,

I was refering to hardware outboard gear. I have a H&K Replex (tape delay immulator) that I would love to use but I'm too lazy to try and figure out how to wire it all in. I was thinking that I could assign a bus output to one of my Presonus mixer outs, run a cable to the H&K, back into the Presonus inst. in and then record all that to a seperate track which could then be nudged to line the audio back into sync. But that seems like a lot of work when I have all this free software sitting on my computer that can simulate the simulated tape delay.

BTW I put a new tune up on Soundclick (shameless self promotion)

ORIGINAL: RobertB

Serious question:
My understanding is that latency compensation would only be an issue with software effects. It's basically a "look ahead" function.
If you are using external hardware effects, would this even be an issue?

Good question Bob. But I believe the UAD compensates for it. The Lexicon however requires you to route your signal externally as if in an effects send on hardware. I imagine there would be latency introduced from the simple fact the signal would be outbound from the audio interface and then inbound back into the DAW. It might be worth looking into. There was a write up in SOS not too long ago. I'll have a look and get you some feedback.

ORIGINAL: cjlinus

Doc,

I was refering to hardware outboard gear. I have a H&K Replex (tape delay immulator) that I would love to use but I'm too lazy to try and figure out how to wire it all in. I was thinking that I could assign a bus output to one of my Presonus mixer outs, run a cable to the H&K, back into the Presonus inst. in and then record all that to a seperate track which could then be nudged to line the audio back into sync. But that seems like a lot of work when I have all this free software sitting on my computer that can simulate the simulated tape delay.

BTW I put a new tune up on Soundclick (shameless self promotion)

I'm still thinking there would be some latency introduced but then again I am sure it is done to some extent in mastering as well. Troublesome concept. I think it requires too much thought. So I must defer to your signature regarding thinking. And Shameless self promotion? I don't see it as being shameless.

Shamefull then?

re:thinking is over rated.
Nonetheless, I'm kind of thinking out loud here.
A Pre-fade send should divert the signal before it is subject the the D/A converter, therby short-circuiting the latency from that. However the round trip would probably introduce some latency, I'm thinking in the 1ms or less range.
Doc, let us know what you find out.
CJ, I would be very tempted to hook it up. My guess is that a very tiny nudge might be all that is required, if that. My guess is that it would be so close that you would be dealing with phasing, and not a blatent latency problem.
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