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2018/04/05 15:42:56
Phoen1xPJ
I had a *large* number of VST's that threw obscure errors during initial scan. These same VST's work just fine in SPlat. Meng and Noel, why did this happen and will it be corrected? All else in Cakewalk is ultra cool *and* I have not had a single crash yet... great job, guys! 
2018/04/05 15:53:24
bapu
I had three hangs on VST scan. Killed and restarted. All in all I had three other VSTs that said they were "suspect". I chose to enable anyway. One of them (the full TH3, not the SONAR version) always says that on a startup of CbB.
 
SPlat VST scan returns a count of 2376 where CbB returns 2366. I've accounted for 6 32bit plugs that don't scan in CbB but do in SPlat. The other four seem like they are the three plugs that "hung" where I needed to restart the scan and one other plug.
 
<EDIT> I fixed all my errors. See my posts below.
2018/04/05 16:03:10
mudgel
I had to add my VST 2 plugin path to  Cakewalk’s scan path. However, on e I did that I get the same plugin numbers for both Sonar Platinum as I get for Cakewalk.
 
Maybe you need to check some things out before jumping to the conclusion that it must be Cakewalk. I have over 1,000 plugins and whilst having a single error on the initial scan, once I added the additional path all was OK.
 
Try going to Preferences/VST and select Reset and rescan. 32 bit plugins can also create issues as they are not likely to have been kept up to date if they only come as 32 bit.
2018/04/05 16:11:01
Starise
I think I read somewhere that 32 bit plug ins are no longer a choice. I could be mistaken. If true it's a downer for me but not a deal breaker.
2018/04/05 16:13:50
bapu
For the record, I'm not saying Cakewalk is the culprit. I'm just reporting results.
 
FYI: All VST the paths are identical in both SPlat and CbB. And I did a full Reset/Rescan (thanks CakeAlexS, LOL).
2018/04/05 16:19:12
bapu
Starise
I think I read somewhere that 32 bit plug ins are no longer a choice. I could be mistaken. If true it's a downer for me but not a deal breaker.


Well, I have 33 specific, by path, 32bit *only* plugs of which only 6 would not scan in CbB so I'm not sure that is an accurate statement.
 
We have been told there is no CbB 32bit version installer, maybe that is what you recall?
2018/04/05 16:34:06
scook
There is only one scanner used by CbB and SONAR but each DAW has its own path settings and VST Inventory in the registry. The most common problems cause a dialog to appear giving an option to enable the plug-in anyway. For commercial plug-ins I always enable and do not recall having any issues. Sometimes the scanner will hang, Zeta+2 does it for me. In that case, i kill the scan, move the plug-in out of the path, run another scan. When I get a completed scan, I add Zeta+2 back. The next scan always picks it up.
 
A couple of tips
1) Do not cause the scanner to work more than necessary.
  • Avoid duplicate paths. The scanner starts at the paths specified in Preferences and search every folder below them.
  • Avoid scanning areas that do not contain VST2/3 plug-ins such as the paths contain DX plug-ins.
  • The "Rescan Failed Plug-ins" and "Rescan Existing Plug-ins" options are off by default and in most cases should be left that way.
2) To create a scan log - hold the SHIFT key while clicking the scan button. A toast message should appear advising a log is created.

 
And yes 32bit plug-ins are still supported using BitBridge.
2018/04/05 16:47:56
bapu
I've down to 5 32bit only plugs not showing up in CbB that show up in Splat.
 
They are all rarely used IK Multimedia VSTi plugs. I now have the 64bit replacement plugs running.
Philharmonik
SampleMoog
SampleTank 2.x
SampleTron
SonikSynth 2
 
I only have three projects that still have SampleTank in them. Must take this opportunity to replace them with SampleTank 3 and uninstall those 32bit only version plugs.
 
 
 
2018/04/05 17:01:27
scook
Don't those require the host to run as administrator? If so, that needs to be done before scanning to pick up the plug-ins. Check the exclude list.
2018/04/05 17:33:06
bapu
scook
Don't those require the host to run as administrator? If so, that needs to be done before scanning to pick up the plug-ins. Check the exclude list.


Probably. I simply swapped out Sample Tank 3 and moved them out of my 32bit only scan path. Probloem solved. My VST counts match now.
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