John
It will be a boon to young musicians just starting out and don't have the money to buy Sonar up front. If I were in there shoes I would jump on this. Its a great deal. In the past I have passed up a DAW because I just couldn't afford it. CW has open the doors for all.

There's something wrong with this kind of reasoning, and it's widespread.  Say you're poor and need most of your money for food.  If you opt for the payment plan, you'll eat less during the year than if you pay up front.  You may have to (gasp) save up for it before buying, but at the end of the year you'll have both Sonar and a full stomach.
 
A payment plan is the worst thing on earth for someone who is strapped for cash.
 

Sweet Tooth

Anderton

Sweet Tooth
Ironic because I would say the same.

Of course you would! Why say things that make sense?
 
Fortunately, you have proven incontrovertibly and beyond a shadow of any possible doubt that you indeed choose not to see, because you obviously did not read the link YOU (yes, you) so generously provided that totally and completely undermines your faux argument. But thanks for that!
 
Read post #85 to fully comprehend the extent to which you've made a fool of yourself.
 
However, rest assured we all appreciate the convenience of having you come in here, making a ridiculous argument, and then demolishing it yourself so we don't have to. It saves us all some time.

The point was to say that I could use the same argument, that quite possibly he could be Blind. 
 
This is not a faux argument. I know there are a lot of Yes Men around these woods, as stated previously the Subscription model does not come in single form, there are many. Cake is offering IMO and the opinion of many others a subscription model. If I pay for 4 months and stop payment my license ceases, just like it is proposed in my so called undermining article I linked to. I, YES , I Have read the articles.
 
The people will define it, and sure enough anyone I have talked to about the "New Sonar" has mentioned it being Subscription because that is how they see it.

Then they are wrong. And you are contributing to them being wrong. Is buying a car on time a subscription? Is buying a house via a mortgage a subscription? Those are the proper models to use when you are talking about the option to pay over time. With a subscription you can't pay up front and you never own anything. That is how Adobe has it. And that is what we are comparing the model CW is using to. They are not the same. You can not make them the same.
 
  

Anderton
Is there any possible way I can make this clearer? 

Craig, please answer one question :
 
   What happens if you sign up for the payment plan and stop paying after four months ?
 
 
 (besides suddenly finding yourself in demo mode)
 

Marcus Curtis
It is probably better to agree to disagree on this point.

I think they have both agreed to disagree with themselves, which is certainly a new one on me.
 
"I will give you the definition of a rental program! But I do not agree with this definition that I am giving you!"
 
Actually it's kind of creative. Hey, it's a Saturday night. We could all use a little humor. If anyone thinks I'm being mean, I can only wish you could see my webcam. I think this is hilarious 

John
To be candid I am not sure how this will benefit CW. It will be a boon to young musicians just starting out and don't have the money to buy Sonar up front. If I were in there shoes I would jump on this. Its a great deal. In the past I have passed up a DAW because I just couldn't afford it. CW has open the doors for all.
 
Perhaps by letting those that would like to have Sonar have an inexpensive way to get a Pro quality DAW they will get a lot more customers.      

That is one thing they are hoping. The other is to get more people to buy more often. A problem that software companies face is that people will decide the tools they have are "good enough" and not wish to buy upgrades. Fine for the consumer, not so great if you are a developer who needs continuing cash for operations. With a traditional release model, each release has to be a big enough jump to get people to spend, and it isn't always.
 
With a model like this, they hope more people will choose to just subscribe yearly. That way, they get a continual stream of revenue. There isn't any particular milestone they have to hit, people will subscribe just to have access to updates and new features as they happen.
 
Also it helps keep the software more competitive. They can release new features as soon as they are ready, they don't have to try and bundle them up. That can mean that they can always be cutting edge (provided the development team can make that happen, of course) they don't run in to a situation where they are behind the curve because they are getting the next version ready, but some other company launched their new version.
 
We'll see how it goes for them. I doubt they'll say on the forum, companies are always overly tight lipped about financials. If you are interested, TEAC owns TASCAM owns Cakewalk so you can buy TEAC stock and sniff over their reports :) (I know Gibson owns the majority stake of TEAC, but it is still traded on the Tokyo Exchange).

Hi Paul,
 The Elephant Folio by Jame Audobon is the result of one of the most famous subscriptions in the history of the world.
 
 Audobon sold subscriptions to the print editions and the subscribers received, and got to keep perpetually, the prints they had subscribed too.
 
 It's saddens me to see so much hatred and ill will being shared by people who probably think they are the forum good guys as they demonstrate that they are misinformed of the actual definition of the word "subscription".
 
Google
 
Merriam Webster
 
 

Paul P

Anderton
Is there any possible way I can make this clearer? 

Craig, please answer one question :à
 
What happens if you sign up for the payment plan and stop paying after four months ?

Easy! You have not met the terms of the agreement, therefore any agreement is null and void and no longer in force. So what happens is there is no plan - membership, subscription, or if you want to call it beige elephant, you're not a part of that either. When you stopped paying, you no longer have any agreement to any plan.
 
Because there is no longer any plan, you cannot call it a subscription because NO PLAN EXISTS. YOU HAVE TERMINATED IT. IT'S OVER. 

Anderton
 
 
Is there any possible way I can make this clearer? 

I don't think there is a way for you to make it clearer, but not for a lack of trying. I applaud your efforts but in the end people see what they want to see.

Paul P

Anderton
However, rest assured we all appreciate the convenience of having you come in here, making a ridiculous argument, and then demolishing it yourself so we don't have to. It saves us all some time.

C'mon Craig, you're Gibson's representative here.  Act like it or I'm telling Henry
 
Your Cakewalk brethren, on the other hand, are saints.

 
Which is exactly why they don't deserve to be trolled by people (not you, that's for sure) who have set up their own domain so they can easily change ISPs, while holding on to a legitimate ISP so they can generate a virtually unlimited number of email accounts under which they can continue to register and re-register in order to say the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again, while taking up bandwidth and engaging in what is essentially a low-level denial of service attack.
 
I have no patience for that kind of person, and every club needs a bouncer.
 
Please tell Henry. He might give me a raise.

Paul P

John
It will be a boon to young musicians just starting out and don't have the money to buy Sonar up front. If I were in there shoes I would jump on this. Its a great deal. In the past I have passed up a DAW because I just couldn't afford it. CW has open the doors for all.

There's something wrong with this kind of reasoning, and it's widespread.  Say you're poor and need most of your money for food.  If you opt for the payment plan, you'll eat less during the year than if you pay up front.  You may have to (gasp) save up for it before buying, but at the end of the year you'll have both Sonar and a full stomach.
 
A payment plan is the worst thing on earth for someone who is strapped for cash.
 

Perhaps it is but I think its a great opportunity for those that can't handle the up front charge. Again it is an option. 
 
Why are you oppose to options?